Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1150198)

Well THERE's something that sucks about SWA. I sure as hell don't want 14 days of SC.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1150435)

In the summer when things are busy out of base white slips are possible. Normally if you get one it will be the day prior or the morning of the trip when someone sicks out. Now and then some winter trips show up but in the 1113 contract out of base WS moved below reserves in base. Big change. Hopefully it will go back the other way in the new contract.

Oh hell no... why do you continually want to screw the reserves?
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Tsquare, I invite you to read every single post that I have made on this forum. Find any where I have tried to screw the reserves. In the pre 1113 contract a out of base WS went before reserves only if no reserve pilot requested the trip. I know you know that unless you really were that uninformed about the contract you worked under with the awards run that way for at least 10 years. No reserves was screwed. In fact it was the opposite. A reserve got to stay home instead of being given a trip he did not want.
The current system leaves it up to the scheduler. He can award it to a reserve in base or to the out of base WS. They look at their coverage and play the game to suit crew scheduling. The old system was much better for everyone involved. In addition a out of base WS award verses in base to a reserve increases jobs overall. I have talked over an over again about the effect of the work rule changes on jobs. I guess you want to give up more jobs to the company.
In June of 2007 Delta had about the same amount of total pilot block hours as we had in June of 2001. We were however flying the schedule with 2500 fewer pilots. Why? Hundreds of little changes like this to the work rules. They need to be fixed in the next contract.

Originally Posted by finis72 (Post 1150529)

Hey Newk, I actually flew the DC-9 as an F/O in MSY, finished my OE's and then got canceled. If Delta paid by work load DC-9 F/O would be the highest paid position.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1150548)

This of course has nothing to do with why you chose to insult me by marginalizing my strike experiences. When you do something that juvenile, you have no other choice but to change the subject...and hope nobody notices.

You made a mistake and you should apologize, instead of continuing to dig.

Carl

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1150556)

Yup. Who would want SWAPA's scope if it meant 14 days of SC. Scope doesn't affect you anyway...right tsquare?

Carl

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1150562)

Quite the contrary, it does affect me. I also work in a base that has 80% commuters as do you. Funny, but you don't seem to think that that is a HUGE QOL issue for many. Talk about being unaffected... when was the last time YOU sat reserve?

Originally Posted by RonRicco (Post 1150555)

<<<<The current system leaves it up to the scheduler. He can award it to a reserve in base or to the out of base WS. They look at their coverage and play the game to suit crew scheduling. >>>>


This is not correct. If the trip is more than 12 hours out it goes to reserves first and if it is under 12, the out of base WS goes first. The scheduler has no discretion and a reserve could get credit for the trip if it was not awarded properly as could the pilot requesting the WS.

FWIW, the last LEC meeting I attended pilots were actually calling for the end of the out of base WS because they felt it was reducing their chance of getting an in base GS.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1150559)

Marginalizing your strike experience? Uh.. no. I just don't bow to it as being anything that makes you an expert in anything. You had the balls to stand up to management and walk out the door.. good for you. It also means that your MEC failed.