Airline Pilot Central Forums - Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Buzz,

Not sure if you are aware but you don't have to file any paperwork other than to fax the company a copy of your medical. The reimbursement is automatic and listed on the righthand side of your paycheck. I believe it's a negative (number) which is a positive in this instance!!:D

Denny

Carl Spackler

03-15-2012 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1152506)

Yes I do. I want more money in more guys pockets as soon as possible. Not all of us are fortunate to be 54 year old 747 captains Carl.. but I guess that is a foreign concept to you.

I want more money in ALL guys pockets tsquare. Not more guys' pockets...ALL guys' pockets.

Carl

Carl Spackler

03-15-2012 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FedElta (Post 1152515)

Carl ,

You were comparing DAL pilot productivity to that of FDX/UPS drivers...

I responded to tsquare who was making management's arguments for them when he cautioned us against thinking we could claim pay like UPS and FDX enjoys. He said they were way more productive than we are. That is false.

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Originally Posted by FedElta (Post 1152515)

now you tell me how DAL defines productivity.....

It's not just DAL. All airlines define their pilots productivity by minimizing credit time and maximizing hard flight hours. Tsquare is trying to redefine pilot productivity in relation to revenue generated. That's a different metric than productivity.

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Originally Posted by FedElta (Post 1152515)

I think you just played the red herring card.

No idea what you're talking about.

Carl

PilotFrog

03-15-2012 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1152568)

Sam, did you just submit your ticket or did you also send in your receipt?

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Originally Posted by siemprerojo (Post 1152575)

Just send in a copy of your medical either via fax or scan and email.

Does the company know if it is an EKG year and compensate in turn?

Carl Spackler

03-15-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1152550)

Actually I will get there. I doubt seriously that I will bid it though, because the mission bores me. That and I won't be senior enough to be anything but a gutter slime reserve, but I would hold the category.. great deal.. 63 years old.. prime of my career.. sitting reserve.. wooo hooo what a great deal... But that's not the point at all, and you know it.

Actually tsquare, trying to discern your point is often times quite difficult.

Carl

Carl Spackler

03-15-2012 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1152552)

I never said you shouldn't get any raises. And for someone who claims to be a real unionist, you sure want to take advantage of capitalism (even though you did NOTHING to create the wealth you covet) when it is advantageous to your checkbook. Typical.

Absolutely unintelligible. :confused:

Carl

Carl Spackler

03-15-2012 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lolwut (Post 1152617)

One would think that is because the much larger capacity is only a small portion of your overall job (regarding qualifications/training/experience required).

One could say that holding a 747 Captain position is much more due to seniority and chosen lifestyle than it is any other metric (ability, experience, etc). Therefore, that pay premium compared to other aircraft is much more a function of time on property than it is what the actual aircraft is. So why not just build these pay premiums into the longevity scale and reduce the influence a particular aircraft has on a pilot's pay rates?

I'm not making a value judgment on our system. I'm simply defining it. I've had to because tsquare keeps attempting to redefine it in an effort to support his longevity based pay system. I don't really care which direction we go, but we've at least got to define things accurately.

Carl

Carl Spackler

03-15-2012 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1152632)

But to guys like Carl, it is all about his "productivity":rolleyes: and that is killing YOUR career earnings.

Translation: "Since tsquare won't get to fly the 744/777, then we need to change everything so that tsquare makes the same amount of money...thus negating any impact on tsquare".

Carl

CVG767A

03-15-2012 11:28 PM

If higher pay for larger aircraft is so crazy, we really ought to take a second look at higher pay for captains. The FOs do the same work as the captains, right?

Why not one pay rate for all pilots, regardless of seat?