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Columbia 03-16-2012 02:57 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1152610)
Capacity means pax and cargo. And even if it's only double, I still don't get paid double. I get paid a small premium for the much larger capacity. That's my only point.

Carl

I'm still curious why the 737 and 320 pays more than the 88/90. Also, it's often that the 88 will fly more legs/ generate more revenue per day than the either of the uglier under-wing engined siblings.
What happens to pay rates when Delta gives all its wide bodies to code share partners

Columbia 03-16-2012 03:04 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1152610)
Capacity means pax and cargo. And even if it's only double, I still don't get paid double. I get paid a small premium for the much larger capacity. That's my only point.

Carl

Does the short school bus driver get paid any less than the full sized school bus driver? Nope
Does the train engineer pulling 50 cars get full of passengers get paid any less than the engineer pulling 150 cars of more lucrative oil or cargo? Nope.

nerd2009 03-16-2012 03:17 AM

This just about sums it up:


Prior to Delta's Bankruptcy filing;

The Pilots took a 32.5% Pay Cut, which amounted to $1 Billion
The F/A's took a xx% Pay Cut, which amounted to $yy
The Mechanics took a xx% Pay Cut, which amounted to $zz
The other non-contract employees took a xx% pay cut, which amounted to $xx
And in bankruptcy, the Pilots took an additional 15% pay cut, which saved

the Company $300 Million,
And their Pensions were TERMINATED, which saved the Company $ XX Billions
And the non-contract employees pensions were converted to a DC plan, which

saved the Company $xx Millions

Since Delta exited Bankruptcy, the non-contract employees are at xx% (90?)

of their pre-bankruptcy pay rates
The Delta Pilots are at 60% of their pre-bankrutcy pay rates.

Delta Management is currently making xxx% of what the previous

Management team was making prior to Bankruptcy

In this upcomming contract, the Delta Pilots, who have contributed many

times MORE than all the other employee groups, combined, will be seeking

to be repaid for their selfless contributions to Delta's latest financial

success, since most of it was due in large part to their generosity.

maddogmax 03-16-2012 03:26 AM


Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 1152643)
Does the company know if it is an EKG year and compensate in turn?

Not sure how they do it for you young guy's. For us "old guy's" (over 50) they alternate payments. Maybe they alternate every other year for you. They don't care when you get the EKG, they just pay it on an alternate schedule.

acl65pilot 03-16-2012 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by Rolf (Post 1152673)
Aircraft size only matters for seniority integration, isn't that right? TSquat?

Size and pay.

crewdawg52 03-16-2012 04:15 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1152550)
Actually I will get there. I doubt seriously that I will bid it though, because the mission bores me. That and I won't be senior enough to be anything but a gutter slime reserve, but I would hold the category.. great deal.. 63 years old.. prime of my career.. sitting reserve.. wooo hooo what a great deal... But that's not the point at all, and you know it.

So, everyone who sits reserve is now, as you say, "gutter slime". Very professional sir......

tsquare 03-16-2012 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg52 (Post 1152696)
So, everyone who sits reserve is now, as you say, "gutter slime". Very professional sir......

In the middle of my second short call in a row sir... point is that I am sure you want your QOL in what should be the best time of your career to suck.. just for the money, right?

tsquare 03-16-2012 04:38 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1152647)
Absolutely unintelligible. :confused:

Carl

Size compensation issues now reading comprehension troubles. Focus Carl.

tsquare 03-16-2012 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by Rolf (Post 1152673)
Aircraft size only matters for seniority integration, isn't that right? TSquat?

don't feed the troll.... don't feed the troll...

Um... it shouldn't matter... at all... ever. We are blue collar labor and make none of those purchasing decisions.

tsquare 03-16-2012 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 1152688)
Does the short school bus driver get paid any less than the full sized school bus driver? Nope
Does the train engineer pulling 50 cars get full of passengers get paid any less than the engineer pulling 150 cars of more lucrative oil or cargo? Nope.

This right here^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


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