Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-27-2012 | 12:59 PM
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From: Boeing Hearing and Ergonomics Lab Rat, Night Shift
More to the point; Why would a passenger need DAL if they could fly out of HND on ANA or JAL to most major gateways in the US? Why would a US customer choose DAL in to NRT when HND is downtown and saves them two hrs each way from city center to the airport?
What would DAL do if all of its US O&D traffic, as well as some of its connecting traffic choose a Japanese carrier? How much traffic is O&D out of NRT? How much is connecting? This is a HUGE issue for DAL and for DAL pilots. We would need effectively to move our 355 weekly slots back to HND to compete effectively.
Currently DAL could go a Code Share or a JV that is revenue sharing only and not profit sharing like the AF deal and there is not one thing in our PWA to prevent it. Talk about WB lift, seat progression et al.
For me these two issues in Section 1 (CS and JV protection on all deals) are a must to get my yes vote. (not to mention SJS, holding companies and some way to bound a international corporation in the event of a transnational merger.
What would DAL do if all of its US O&D traffic, as well as some of its connecting traffic choose a Japanese carrier? How much traffic is O&D out of NRT? How much is connecting? This is a HUGE issue for DAL and for DAL pilots. We would need effectively to move our 355 weekly slots back to HND to compete effectively.
Currently DAL could go a Code Share or a JV that is revenue sharing only and not profit sharing like the AF deal and there is not one thing in our PWA to prevent it. Talk about WB lift, seat progression et al.
For me these two issues in Section 1 (CS and JV protection on all deals) are a must to get my yes vote. (not to mention SJS, holding companies and some way to bound a international corporation in the event of a transnational merger.
The RJ issue is more of a distraction. This next contract needs big improvements in CS and JV language...
Three Virgin Australia 777-300 vs one Delta 777-200 is the current status quo for the JV covering US and Australia flights.
Imagine what that ratio would look like to all of Asia...
All we get under the current contract is 4 flights a week to them and they get unlimited flights to the US...unlimited!
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03-27-2012 | 01:04 PM
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03-27-2012 | 01:11 PM
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It appears 191 just isn't a good flight number at any airline
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George
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03-27-2012 | 02:07 PM
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Timbo (using my phone to type) please read your PWA, Section 1, Definitions 40 D. The 255 limit is a hard cap on SEVENTY to 76 seat RJ's. Management is already maxed at the cap. To add a new 76 seater they would have to park a 70 seater. They don't want to comply (allegedly). If the mainline fleet shrinks, it would have no effect on the 255, or 153, or whatever number they come up with.
Bar;
DALPA has a history of rolling over on the definitions. I agree, they are maxed at the cap...that and $2.50 will buy you a venti.
Recapture scope or fail the mandate.
03-27-2012 | 02:49 PM
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03-27-2012 | 03:01 PM
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More to the point; Why would a passenger need DAL if they could fly out of HND on ANA or JAL to most major gateways in the US? Why would a US customer choose DAL in to NRT when HND is downtown and saves them two hrs each way from city center to the airport?
What would DAL do if all of its US O&D traffic, as well as some of its connecting traffic choose a Japanese carrier? How much traffic is O&D out of NRT? How much is connecting? This is a HUGE issue for DAL and for DAL pilots. We would need effectively to move our 355 weekly slots back to HND to compete effectively.
Currently DAL could go a Code Share or a JV that is revenue sharing only and not profit sharing like the AF deal and there is not one thing in our PWA to prevent it. Talk about WB lift, seat progression et al.
For me these two issues in Section 1 (CS and JV protection on all deals) are a must to get my yes vote. (not to mention SJS, holding companies and some way to bound a international corporation in the event of a transnational merger.
What would DAL do if all of its US O&D traffic, as well as some of its connecting traffic choose a Japanese carrier? How much traffic is O&D out of NRT? How much is connecting? This is a HUGE issue for DAL and for DAL pilots. We would need effectively to move our 355 weekly slots back to HND to compete effectively.
Currently DAL could go a Code Share or a JV that is revenue sharing only and not profit sharing like the AF deal and there is not one thing in our PWA to prevent it. Talk about WB lift, seat progression et al.
For me these two issues in Section 1 (CS and JV protection on all deals) are a must to get my yes vote. (not to mention SJS, holding companies and some way to bound a international corporation in the event of a transnational merger.
And MD88s to take care of the ladies back home.
03-27-2012 | 03:16 PM
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03-27-2012 | 03:18 PM
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They can offer all the health care for retirees they want (I assume you are thinking that it would get more early retirees) but we shouldn't pay one... red... cent.... for it, because in the end, it will not amount to a hill of beans and it certainly won't entice anybody that wasn't already planning on going to go.. naaah that is a myth.
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03-27-2012 | 04:00 PM
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