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acl65pilot 03-30-2012 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1160372)
Hey quick question, does the pilot group need to approve a rate on the 717 if they decide to bring them on property?

Or is their as predetermined way of setting a rate for a new aircraft type that is brought on property?

Just wondering...

If it is agreed to before the compleation of Section6, yes we have to vote. If it is a LOA after the fact, by policy manual definition, they do not have to send it to MEMRAT.

Bucking Bar 03-30-2012 09:16 AM

So, my wife bought lottery tickets. Since our paycheck no longer allows a Cadillac a month, or six months for that matter, what would you guys blow a few hundred million on?

Nominations:


or perhaps

http://www.finesthotels.net/services...ter/F10ext.jpg

or

http://www.vicsailsydney.com.au/wp-c.../oceanis58.jpg

I'm kinda thinking all three, since two of the three could be leased back and used as a self supporting tax write off. The airplane is a business necessity ... otherwise how could you check on your boat? None would be financially irresponsible since none are really going to drop in value.

Frankly, I don't get why more buyers don't go for an older business jet. The performance, dollar for dollar, is much higher and the parts are cheap. These things don't fly often, so who cares what the fuel burn is when the maintenance & insurance on a new light jet can set you back $300,000 a year anyway.

gloopy 03-30-2012 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1160369)
Just always remember:

RASM-CASM=Operating profit

What makes the RASM or the CASM matters not. A MD90 could be a 757 replacement, a Next Gen CRj900 could replace a 757. A 737-900 could replace a 757. They all can attach to a jetway and fly 1,000 miles at around Mach .79. (The CRj actually does the profile better than the Douglas product, hey, 50 years changed the way they build wings)

Gloopy, you say they "suck at math." Not really. They suck at forecasting markets five years into the future when an airplane acquisition is really a 15 to 20 year look see. They also tend to screw up and make deals that looked good at the time, but which fade when the variables change.

That's what I mean. They are as awesome at math as the real estate bubble flippers or the dot commer IPOers at the peak. But like you said, they can't look more than a couple years over the horizon.

I think they are making the same mistake again now with excessive "capacity discipline" while the LCC's collectively have a gigantic order book for growth. Something will have to give there eventually. I also wonder how kindly the legacies will take to LCC's and SWA continuing to poach new market share. I know the sleeping giant will be awakened as soon as they start to widebody flying over the pond, but will it really take that long to generate a massive backlash?

Rudder 03-30-2012 09:27 AM

I think I would find me a couple really nice beavers, and attach a turbine engine to one of them.

blue vortex 03-30-2012 09:36 AM

A week of vacation (21hrs) is 39 RAW points.

scambo1 03-30-2012 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1160341)
Excuse me. I own you. Or will. You shall now your head when typing a post in my general direction. Was your head down? did you say Oh Captain My Captain?

I'll buy this airline by its own assets or something. I will give you a gift, I will say RJs.

Now that I own this airline you may wonder, does FTB want to be a master that is loved or feared?

Both.

I want you to fear how much you love me.


You will be a "firm, but fair master" and even though you are a doctor, you are not a licensed physician. And, if Chakka meat was the secret ingredient on iron chef, how would Bobby Flay serve it?

Bucking Bar 03-30-2012 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by Rudder (Post 1160391)
I think I would find me a couple really nice beavers, and attach a turbine engine to one of them.

For the double entendre, I applaud:


scambo1 03-30-2012 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1160364)
That's how I feel about this, but it is illegal and we'll see if anyone here even knows what it is:

Some kind of forced induction system.

Bucking Bar 03-30-2012 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1160409)
Some kind of forced induction system.

Nope ... but it does have a continuously variable normally aspirated intake system that can be seen on the left side of the mechanism. The dead give away is that the things that look like plug wires, are plug wires. The other dead give away is the size of the drive pulleys.

scambo1 03-30-2012 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1160377)
So, my wife bought lottery tickets. Since our paycheck no longer allows a Cadillac a month, or six months for that matter, what would you guys blow a few hundred million on?

Nominations:


or perhaps

http://www.finesthotels.net/services...ter/F10ext.jpg

or

http://www.vicsailsydney.com.au/wp-c.../oceanis58.jpg

I'm kinda thinking all three, since two of the three could be leased back and used as a self supporting tax write off. The airplane is a business necessity ... otherwise how could you check on your boat? None would be financially irresponsible since none are really going to drop in value.

Frankly, I don't get why more buyers don't go for an older business jet. The performance, dollar for dollar, is much higher and the parts are cheap. These things don't fly often, so who cares what the fuel burn is when the maintenance & insurance on a new light jet can set you back $300,000 a year anyway.


If I won $450M +/-, uncle sugar gets a chunk...

10% tithe

Airplane of choice slepped T-38 with glass and a travel pod, car of choice new twin turbo corvette convertible and a mid 90's supra twin turbo. Boat of choice sterling flats with a yamaha 4 stroke.


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