The primary currency management will tender the pilot group in exchange for more 51-76 seaters is the reduction in 50 seaters which are going away anyway, and/or B717's that our scope clause already owns. Plus we just might end up with several poison pills for later on down the road. Maybe we increase the weight limits and they use E190/195 as 76 seaters with a large first class, then next downturn they squeal about how they need to add the seats to save the company, etc.

More large RJ's will also permanently add pressure to our narrow body flying. Maybe we have enough inertia today to justify 717's but will that always last with more and more large RJ's being flown by the most ruthless low ball bidders in the industry in perpetuity?

We only have 9 737-700's and probably less than a decade's use out of most of our 319's even if we do run them til they cycle out. Other than those, the vaporware 717 and the ancient −9, which WILL be parked in the near future regardless, will be the only thing under 150 seats. Even if we get the 717's, and even if we get all of them, some will be replacements anyway and we're still left with an orphaned last gen airframe at our smallest seat range with more DC-9-10 replacement jets farmed out to the lowest bidder?

And there is NO WAY the company is going to eliminate all other outsourcing and give us the most dominant scope in the universe if we only allow a few more 76ers into the system. As much as they love their cut throat RJ RFP's, they aren't about to give up their AS code share abuse and JV frenzy just to get a few more CRJ's.

And that's not even considering the next crisis, including one day when the bazillion 76 seaters they ordered, over paid for and locked in for 1000 year contracts suddenly become obsolete and they come squealing to us for more relief.

If we fall for this we're being set up big time.

 

Speaking of a Cessna turboprop

 

Oh if only!!!!!

Youve inspired me, I am looking for partners too!

In an F-150 crew cab, oven and a/c unit.

Seriously Bar, how is the A36? Maintenance friendly? How about gas? Can you get 4 adults and 2 little kids far?

 

Received my Commercial Multi Engine in a 1978 C310R. Big old Lycoming IO 550's with 285hp a piece. Made power on stalls fun!

 

The more I think about it, the more I like the faithful wife analogy.

We are the faithful wife that just wants a good marriage and to be appreciated. Not just complimented, but appreciated...flowers, jewelry, etc. Management has been saying he loves us, while staying late at work and hooking up with cheap floozies he meets on Craigslist. They are fun to hang around, but he is starting to see that their tans and long legs only go so far. They aren't the kind of girls he wants to bring home to his parents' house for Thanksgiving dinner.

Now get this...he has been wasting money on this one special bimbo, Kristi, for 10 or 15 years. But now she is getting out of control with his credit card, so he has decided to dump her. This is where it gets interesting, and infuriating. He is coming to us, his unsuspecting and loving wife, and asking us to pawn some of our jewelry to pay off her credit card debt. Even worse, he has his sights set on a new stripper named Candy, with even longer legs, a darker tan, and a belly button piercing. He is wondering if there is ANY chance we would be willing to move in to a smaller place so he can get an apartment with Candy. In exchange, he will stop seeing Kristi.

I don't know about you guys, but for me the answer is no.

 

 

I've gotta see pics Candi and Kristi before I agree with you.

NOT OVERSIZED ONES THOUGH!!!!

 

FlyZ, that's awesome! and sad at the same time...

I sure understand that in the course of negotiations there is compromise.
But asking Delta pilots to loosen scope to tighten scope is just too rich!

I would be equally offended if any new pay increase came at the expense of the DC contribution, that would be just as silly, and downright foolish to agree to.

We need improvements in every section, some will be better than others.
I don't expect we will get everything we want either.

The company is highly profitable and well positioned.
Delta pilots have been fundamental to that success.
It's now the company's turn to provide ROI for the Delta pilots.
This isn't a concessionary contract environment. I do not expect to concede one part of the PWA to gain another. What i'm looking for is for improvements plain and simple without "giving up" on other sections.

Those have been my marching orders to DALPA.

Cheers
George

P.S. On second thought FlyZ maybe you can rewrite your analogy to capture the majority demographic better ;-)

 

Columbia, big pic bud.

With Viking resurrecting the Twin Otter of B-U-double-Z fame, I wonder why not slap two engines on the 208B?

When I visited the ICT plant for the 208, which if memory serves ain't much bigger than a basketball court at the gym, they said the (underpowered) PT6 they had installed was the biggest they felt comfortable putting in a single engine airplane. But the good thing it never fails.

Never fails? The only way an engine never fails if it's never started. They fail, especially pumps, governors and props. If you don't have an engine running, even if it wasn't due to the hot section, then it failed. Give me two!

I like single engine airplanes but I don't like ones that are stressed to their limits. I don't think the Mooneys and A36s and like are, but I think 350hp are. And when they go not only do you end up with a glider, but a blind glider:





Wait patiently for a former insurance guy to explain and correct the factual mess I just made here.

 

Too few mistresses there.

We married Tiger Woods.

This is what is being sold:


This is what is: