Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Other than that, there's no way I can one up teaching in a Mooney, haha.
I did fly charters into ATL on a Turbo Saratoga quite a bit while I was in college, and subsequently taught other new pilots on the charter op on it. It was funny having to turn on the air conditioning to use as a speed brake to help slow down to make the landing gear speed of 132 knots.
My favorite story flying into and out of ATL on those charters was the tower controller calling me "heavy" on one occasion. I was behind a 767- with another 767 behind me- and he cleared me into position saying "Saratoga 32TE heavy, position and hold, caution wake turbulence preceding heavy 767. He cleared me for takeoff, and then cautioned the 767 behind me on "Preceding heavy piper Saratoga."
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And you expect me to sleep after looking at that!!
T-34s? Mooney's? Beech's? For your commercial? Or even private?
Now my Piper Arrow time seems, well, like bragging about my 1989 Ford Ranger with no A/C.
We should have a apcf l&g toy box.
Now my Piper Arrow time seems, well, like bragging about my 1989 Ford Ranger with no A/C.
We should have a apcf l&g toy box.
Well gloopy sink flamer and george all say that it would be a loss to allow any more jets in the 51-76 seat range even if other areas of scope were to be improved significantly.
I believe limiting and eventually eliminating all off-list DCI pilots... Let the company operate the airline on multiple certificates, as long as there are Delta Pilots in the cockpits!!!
I wonder if the silent masses feel the same.... We can only hope!
I believe limiting and eventually eliminating all off-list DCI pilots... Let the company operate the airline on multiple certificates, as long as there are Delta Pilots in the cockpits!!!
I wonder if the silent masses feel the same.... We can only hope!
Sorry I didn't win the lottery, not buyin Delta, you guys will not be owned, acl sorry about the master and commander oh captain my captain stuff.
I was planning on one hell of a section 6 though! then resigning after the ta was sent to vote. I would need to sell my stock, wall st would not like what I had done.
I was planning on one hell of a section 6 though! then resigning after the ta was sent to vote. I would need to sell my stock, wall st would not like what I had done.
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Next time we took the Company jet, which was expected, and raised fewer eyebrows.
Save the Company nearly $2,500 and still get complained about. That's just my luck.
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
While talking about the "Toy Box." I did a little work on this and the owner promised we'd take it around to air shows. It had a fascinating history. Originally registered to the CIA, then operated by the World's largest cocaine smuggler. We had photos of it in SE Asia with Air to Ground munitions, and photos of it full of cocaine, even pictures of folks on it mooning the DEA (back then they could not shoot it down, but they could run anything the DEA down to min fuel). I was planning a heck of a story board:


The previous owner who used it for drug running was this guy:
Drug Smuggler- Rik Luytjes
Not to glamorize that sort of thing. But the airplane was purpose built for shenanigans. 350 feet was plenty to get 3,000+ lbs of payload aloft and fly it at 200+ knots for over 1,000 miles. Used, illegally, it made Central America to Scranton PA, non stop. It was a very capable airplane, but had some quirks. Unfortunately the owner sold it ... would have been fun to load up ten friends & head down to the islands in.
As you can see, the main gear hang low in flight and have a lot of travel. When landing the wheels would physically be on the ground, but it would definitely still be flying. As sold to the CIA, there was no lock out for Beta on the prop. Getting it into reverse while still 3 feet in the air would result in the airplane trying to swap ends.
If I won the lottery, I would be making some phone calls to see if the current owner wants to sell. It is about the most useful, fun, relatively cheap to operate war-bird I know of.


Drug Smuggler- Rik Luytjes
Not to glamorize that sort of thing. But the airplane was purpose built for shenanigans. 350 feet was plenty to get 3,000+ lbs of payload aloft and fly it at 200+ knots for over 1,000 miles. Used, illegally, it made Central America to Scranton PA, non stop. It was a very capable airplane, but had some quirks. Unfortunately the owner sold it ... would have been fun to load up ten friends & head down to the islands in.
As you can see, the main gear hang low in flight and have a lot of travel. When landing the wheels would physically be on the ground, but it would definitely still be flying. As sold to the CIA, there was no lock out for Beta on the prop. Getting it into reverse while still 3 feet in the air would result in the airplane trying to swap ends.
If I won the lottery, I would be making some phone calls to see if the current owner wants to sell. It is about the most useful, fun, relatively cheap to operate war-bird I know of.
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Why do I find creating a purpose built drug running plane as amusing? 
I guess it's like the dukes of hazzard
Until you get shot down!

I guess it's like the dukes of hazzard
Until you get shot down!
Flamer,
I don't believe that a 43% pay raise and 100% scope recapture is attainable in 5 years. By anyone, ALPA or otherwise. The APA wrote that opera and it ends with the fat lady singing the blues. If a lot of guys felt that way, even that wouldn't matter, because the NMB would never let one airline leapfrog every other airline on the planet by such a significant margin. It sounds tough in electronic format, but those desires and my mega million numbers of 19 25 41 43 46 and 19 are going to get the exact same jackpot.
Be reasonable. Consider that a 43% pay raise might be attainable in 10 years. Reverse engineer it by inflation and recognize that what is really being asked for is the Roger 11% up front. The folks that want that 43% actually agree with Roger and the expectation managers.
I don't believe that a 43% pay raise and 100% scope recapture is attainable in 5 years. By anyone, ALPA or otherwise. The APA wrote that opera and it ends with the fat lady singing the blues. If a lot of guys felt that way, even that wouldn't matter, because the NMB would never let one airline leapfrog every other airline on the planet by such a significant margin. It sounds tough in electronic format, but those desires and my mega million numbers of 19 25 41 43 46 and 19 are going to get the exact same jackpot.
Be reasonable. Consider that a 43% pay raise might be attainable in 10 years. Reverse engineer it by inflation and recognize that what is really being asked for is the Roger 11% up front. The folks that want that 43% actually agree with Roger and the expectation managers.
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