Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-25-2012 | 02:45 PM
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Heard the same fwiw
03-25-2012 | 02:45 PM
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Actually, Johnso, IMHO, bringing smaller jets to the company and getting giddy is shortsighted. Do we want to become a regional carrier or do we want to play on the big playground? I understand where you guys are coming from. You are a product of the regionals. Yes, let us absolutely recapture our scope. But, no, let us not get comfortable with settling for that. Again, growing small is not growing big. We should shoot for growing big.
The only furlough protection that means anything is flowing to smaller jets on your own property.
03-25-2012 | 02:47 PM
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Gloopy,
I'm afraid you're correct. Our 747/777 fleets are small in comparison with AMR / UCAL. I'd like to see that change!
I'm afraid you're correct. Our 747/777 fleets are small in comparison with AMR / UCAL. I'd like to see that change!
03-25-2012 | 02:49 PM
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You know RA well do you? Better cnx those MD90s coming in. No chance for 717s. I guess those acquired DC9s at NWA never happened either. How about the 742 freighters. He's always looked for value. Look no further than then operating economics of the 739.
RA would buy 777s in a heart beat, if and only if, it'd be more advantageous for DAL pilots to fly them. Right now, it appears DAL is more interested in JVs/Code Shares.
RA would buy 777s in a heart beat, if and only if, it'd be more advantageous for DAL pilots to fly them. Right now, it appears DAL is more interested in JVs/Code Shares.
03-25-2012 | 02:51 PM
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No Sink, I'm not kidding. And, once again, I get it. What I am saying is that bringing smaller jets to the company is fine. It certainly behooves the junior guys. I'm not opposed to it, I actually applaud it. HOWEVER, if anybody thinks that it means we are thriving is sorely mistaken. We are a huge international airline. We pride ourselves on being the best pilots in the industry. And, in my opinion, we are. The company can't grow and WE can't grow if we don't aspire to build our WB fleet. I saw an Aeroflot 777 take off from LA last night on its way to Moscow. Do you know how many 777s we have? Frikkin Aeroflot? Which we now code share by the way. We are quickly becoming a ticket brokering regional carrier. Not what I have in mind.
Also, what do you think bringing on 100 or so E190s would do to your seniority? I would bet that after the dust settles post-bid, you could hold 777 F/O with some incredible seniority. Growth, no matter the airframe, benefits everybody except the top 5%. Right now, I don't think we have much say in wide body growth.
03-25-2012 | 02:52 PM
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03-25-2012 | 02:55 PM
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No Sink, I'm not kidding. And, once again, I get it. What I am saying is that bringing smaller jets to the company is fine. It certainly behooves the junior guys. I'm not opposed to it, I actually applaud it. HOWEVER, if anybody thinks that it means we are thriving is sorely mistaken. We are a huge international airline. We pride ourselves on being the best pilots in the industry. And, in my opinion, we are. The company can't grow and WE can't grow if we don't aspire to build our WB fleet. I saw an Aeroflot 777 take off from LA last night on its way to Moscow. Do you know how many 777s we have? Frikkin Aeroflot? Which we now code share by the way. We are quickly becoming a ticket brokering regional carrier. Not what I have in mind.
03-25-2012 | 02:57 PM
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Actually, Johnso, IMHO, bringing smaller jets to the company and getting giddy is shortsighted. Do we want to become a regional carrier or do we want to play on the big playground? I understand where you guys are coming from. You are a product of the regionals. Yes, let us absolutely recapture our scope. But, no, let us not get comfortable with settling for that. Again, growing small is not growing big. We should shoot for growing big.
03-25-2012 | 02:58 PM
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03-25-2012 | 02:58 PM
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It's not either or. Grow big - absolutely - grow small as well. It is not a zero sum proposition as some still would have you believe, and we have seen how well trading small for big works.
The only furlough protection that means anything is flowing to smaller jets on your own property.
The only furlough protection that means anything is flowing to smaller jets on your own property.
I don't want just big metal, I don't want just small metal. I want all of it with double breasted van admirals in the seats.
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