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Old 04-04-2012, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MoonShot View Post
Anyone read the May update from Crew Resources? Doesn't look good for pilot hiring (Q&A at the bottom of the document).
"We are very aware of the wave of pilot retirements that will begin to impact us in five years. Our current analysis shows, depending on the Delta pilot attrition rate and expected growth in flying, we will need to begin hiring sometime between the end of 2013 and early 2015. All departments in Flight Ops are actively engaged in preparing for the impending wave of pilot retirements from a staffing, training and recruiting standpoint."

I've moved up 316 seniority numbers since I was hired 18 months ago, with no backfills. Since the company is shrinking they haven't hired. But any upturn in the economy will cause a need for more airplanes & pilots, so I'm remaining optimistic. The longer they wait, the more difficult the training pipeline problem will become.
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Old 04-04-2012, 04:08 PM
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"We are very aware of the wave of pilot retirements that will begin to impact us in five years. Our current analysis shows, depending on the Delta pilot attrition rate and expected growth in flying, we will need to begin hiring sometime between the end of 2013 and early 2015. All departments in Flight Ops are actively engaged in preparing for the impending wave of pilot retirements from a staffing, training and recruiting standpoint."

I've moved up 316 seniority numbers since I was hired 18 months ago, with no backfills. Since the company is shrinking they haven't hired. But any upturn in the economy will cause a need for more airplanes & pilots, so I'm remaining optimistic. The longer they wait, the more difficult the training pipeline problem will become.
You're right, an uptick will require more airplanes and pilots. There is no limit to how many 50 seaters they can add with cheap oil refinery owned fuel and of course they can use Alaska to supplement.

Disappointing for sure.
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Old 04-04-2012, 04:22 PM
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You're right, an uptick will require more airplanes and pilots. There is no limit to how many 50 seaters they can add with cheap oil refinery owned fuel and of course they can use Alaska to supplement.

Disappointing for sure.
Bummer. Don't you think the regional model is pricing itself out of existence, requiring more mainline? Plus regional pilot staffing is an issue too. I'm just surprised that we've gone this long without hiring again...of course, another merger complicates it more.

So half of the AA flights from DFW-MSP were cancelled today due to hail damage. I was lucky to get a jumpseat on a DCI carrier this morning!
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Old 04-04-2012, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90 View Post
"We are very aware of the wave of pilot retirements that will begin to impact us in five years. Our current analysis shows, depending on the Delta pilot attrition rate and expected growth in flying, we will need to begin hiring sometime between the end of 2013 and early 2015. All departments in Flight Ops are actively engaged in preparing for the impending wave of pilot retirements from a staffing, training and recruiting standpoint."
Really? Any more outsourcing and they will be trying to hire to replace pilots on STRIKE!
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Old 04-04-2012, 04:29 PM
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Well, to build on our love of TSA:

Updated: April 4, 2012, 6:10 PM

A Delta Airlines flight attendant at Buffalo Niagara International Airport was not allowed to fly this morning after he was spotted acting in a manner that a security officer deemed unfit for flight, according to authorities.

Delta flight attendant removed from plane at Buffalo airport - City & Region - The Buffalo News
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Good news, MCO is about to kick the TSA out.
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Old 04-04-2012, 04:46 PM
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I still think Alaska is in play. We see that Delta plays its hand out over years\months and it seems we've been positioning our network to not compete on routes much like I hear the NWA and Delta systems were done before the merger. Heck RA is crafty enough I think to do double and grab Hawiian at the sme time.
We can't afford Alaska. Seen their stock price? It would cost us a heckuva lot to buy them - would likely mess with Richard's plan to reduce debt substantially as DL would have to borrow to buy AS.
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Old 04-04-2012, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90 View Post
"We are very aware of the wave of pilot retirements that will begin to impact us in five years. Our current analysis shows, depending on the Delta pilot attrition rate and expected growth in flying, we will need to begin hiring sometime between the end of 2013 and early 2015. All departments in Flight Ops are actively engaged in preparing for the impending wave of pilot retirements from a staffing, training and recruiting standpoint."
You gotta be $hitting me! I have already been on reserve for 4 years, I was really hoping this would be my last year of reserve. I guess I have at least 2 more years to go!

We need an early out with retiree medical to get rid of these old farts already!
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Old 04-04-2012, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by n9810f View Post
We can't afford Alaska. Seen their stock price? It would cost us a heckuva lot to buy them - would likely mess with Richard's plan to reduce debt substantially as DL would have to borrow to buy AS.
We wouldn't have to spend a penny. Just swap a little stock here and there. As long as the BOD's and Execs get enough out of the deal to buy another island or whatever it will happen.

Delta didn't "pay" for NWA either. One of the reason AS's stock is so overinflated is their bloated partnership with us in the first place. Add to that their cash on hand, which they keep in a merger, and their revenue, which the combined carrier also keeps, and it all rolls gently into one entity like an old man slowly slipping into a warm bath.
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Old 04-04-2012, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
Well, to build on our love of TSA:

Updated: April 4, 2012, 6:10 PM

A Delta Airlines flight attendant at Buffalo Niagara International Airport was not allowed to fly this morning after he was spotted acting in a manner that a security officer deemed unfit for flight, according to authorities.

Delta flight attendant removed from plane at Buffalo airport - City & Region - The Buffalo News
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Good news, MCO is about to kick the TSA out.
Outsourcing would have prevented this.


And is it MCO or Sanford?
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Old 04-04-2012, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Superdad View Post
You gotta be $hitting me! I have already been on reserve for 4 years, I was really hoping this would be my last year of reserve. I guess I have at least 2 more years to go!

We need an early out with retiree medical to get rid of these old farts already!
I don't think the medical will cause much exodus...... I fly with tons of guys over 60 and while some say that its the insurance that keeps them here, upon further questioning I find out that's not necessarily the case. Most only actually fly 8-9 monthly (averaged), make around 200K, and enjoy flying planes. My last trip out of 4 I was the only one under 60!
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