HEY, that is odd...

http://www.laughingcatstudios.com/upsidecat.jpg

but, if you're looking for numbers there ain't any. Think more of "we heard you loud and clear... improve scope... improve pay... improve rules..."

Oh wait? Did we actually say improve scope and pay?

Anyways, they're not showing it in public and negotiating in public. Their strategic decision.

Thanks for posting this. Now how much money will it take to purchase this? I know this has been talked about for a year or so now, but the 'late summer, early fall' time frame makes me wonder if this is the only reason RA is trying to get a TA accomplished so quickly. He wants to finance something.

I'm just at a loss for how much we'd be talking for this.

Just spitballin here:

DAL is one of the worlds largest users of jet fuel. When you remove the crack spread from the equation, you save a lot of money. If we aren't going to run on waste veggie oil or fischer tropsh and petroleum continues to be the fuel of choice, then this is just a smart vertical integration strategy.

Refineries are capital intensive businesses, but if we are buying one that is already built and which has also been depreciated, it might be like buying MD90s. I have no idea what the hard numbers might be.

Heck, why not just buy the Biscoff factory while we're at it? :)

Excuse the absence. I had a chance to get out of my "cubicle" and fly.

So you and FTB both have thousands of posts. Have you guys given much thought to behavioral addiction? You type a few lines on the computer, and the dopamine starts to flow. It feels so good. Just like meth (don't forget to brush your teeth, by the way. When all that blood gets sucked up into your brain, the blood supply to dental areas is the first to be restricted).

But I digress...

The Pinnacle bankruptcy, AMR, the oil refinery, and who knows what else, are creating an environment that might get us something now, that could have additional value (adjusted for time) than what we might get 3 or 4 years from now.

Huff and puff (43%) is absolutely a 4 year path or longer. If the negotiators are successful, the MEC passes it on to the pilots, evaluate rationally in the context of the environment, and vote accordingly.

I'm going to wait. You guys can continue to feed the addiction... remember, every time you post, less blood and a greater possibility of bacteria and infection creating dental problems. By the time you are 65 you'll be toothless old men sucking dinner through a straw.

Later!

Ah the dopamine...anyone seen my choppers?

I dont know what the Biscoff deal is, I suspect we get them for almost free and biscoff writes them off as an advertising expense.

However, you do make a good case for insourcing. Outsourcing has gone waaaayy too far.

Congrats. This post just made you my first "ignore" ever. I'm not sure what your agenda is, but it's certainly NOT in line with what the rest of us want.

The only rational thing you said was "If the negotiators are successful, the MEC passes it on to the pilots, evaluate rationally in the context of the environment, and vote accordingly."

You naming %'s that you feel are unrealistic undermines what we're trying to accomplish here. Unless you're in the room with the negotiators, you don't know what's being tossed around. I can tell you though, they can keep their 11%. It would be a slap in the face given the company is making BILLIONS of dollars. That is of course, unless they fix EVERYTHING else: like scope, work rules, high min calendar day, high training/vacation/distance learning credit, reserve guarantee, DC plan, etc....

That reminds me-after my oatmeal and 2nd cup of coffee, it's time to go give birth to a Padre.

Ahhhhhhh.........much better. A 2 flusher.

Sky,

I read it a while back but its not really worth tracking down to E-mail you. It basically says "We want more good stuff, and less bad stuff."

Scoop