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Boomer 04-03-2012 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by FlyZ (Post 1161013)
The more I think about it, the more I like the faithful wife analogy.

Now get this...he has been wasting money on this one special bimbo, Kristi, for 10 or 15 years.

Even worse, he has his sights set on a new stripper named Candy

Maybe I've been married too long, but I'd like to point out...

Before the affairs started, the wife told management hubby "I'll only do it in three positions. Boeing, Airbus, and Douglas, and Douglas makes me sore. I used to let you pull a little Lockheed action, but that's when we were young and foolish."

"Don't even think of asking me to do any of that kinky stuff... Bombardier, Embraer, or heaven forbid DeHavilland. Eww that's nasty."

So hubby's off to Kristi because she's great at Bombardier, and anything flies with Candy.

The wife might want to set aside her dignity and bring the Bombardier and Embraer in-house. Let Kristi and Candy go mess with someone else's hubby.

Boomer 04-03-2012 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1161054)

That would be Comair in the bottom left corner. All the rest, you're just renting.

$ 2 Billion $, baby! :D

FlyZ 04-03-2012 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1163039)
Maybe I've been married too long, but I'd like to point out...

Before the affairs started, the wife told management hubby "I'll only do it in three positions. Boeing, Airbus, and Douglas, and Douglas makes me sore. I used to let you pull a little Lockheed action, but that's when we were young and foolish."

"Don't even think of asking me to do any of that kinky stuff... Bombardier, Embraer, or heaven forbid DeHavilland. Eww that's nasty."

So hubby's off to Kristi because she's great at Bombardier, and anything flies with Candy.

The wife might want to set aside her dignity and bring the Bombardier and Embraer in-house. Let Kristi and Candy go mess with someone else's hubby.

Ha ha, NICE Boomer! I appreciate the lunchtime laugh, and agree with all of the above.

Bucking Bar 04-03-2012 09:43 AM

Pinnacle's reorganization plan outlines Delta's management of PNCL:
  • 13 week operating plan and 1 year budget to be approved by Delta weekly
  • That plan REQUIRES labor cuts
  • If negotiated cuts are not successful, the plan REQUIRES PNCL seek rejection of the contracts through 1113
  • US Air, United and Saab flying down by end of 2012. EAS flying down by June
  • While the agreement provides 4 and 1/2 years on the CRJ200 flying, Delta can terminate for any breach (which Delta can unilaterally declare) and / or as the financing for each individual aircraft comes up.
  • CRJ 900's going to another operator
Yes, Pinnacle (and Delta, since Delta agreed to pay the increased cost) did just enter into a new PWA in February 2012... and yes, they are now demanding that the new PWA be rejected.

At mainline we have enjoyed a benevolent attitude from management. However, we should view Comair and now Pinnacle as a measure of what (in some cases the same people) are capable of. IMHO, a regional who does not have its own code always runs this risk. None the less, my thoughts are with these fellow members of our union and it is hoped each and every one that needs a job, finds better than what they have now.

shiznit 04-03-2012 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1162920)

It's just that when the pay was established on the 737N, it was high because of the contributions it made to the company bottom line.

NO. It was because of the old version of 3.B.6. Thanks C2K!

SailorJerry 04-03-2012 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Pinnacle's reorganization plan outlines Delta's management of PNCL:
[*]13 week operating plan and 1 year budget to be approved by Delta weekly[*]That plan REQUIRES labor cuts[*]If negotiated cuts are not successful, the plan REQUIRES PNCL seek rejection of the contracts through 1113[*]US Air, United and Saab flying down by end of 2012. EAS flying down by June[*]While the agreement provides 4 and 1/2 years on the CRJ200 flying, Delta can terminate for any breach (which Delta can unilaterally declare) and / or as the financing for each individual aircraft comes up.[*]CRJ 900's going to another operator

Yes, Pinnacle (and Delta, since Delta agreed to pay the increased cost) did just enter into a new PWA in February 2012... and yes, they are now demanding that the new PWA be rejected.

At mainline we have enjoyed a benevolent attitude from management. However, we should view Comair and now Pinnacle as a measure of what (in some cases the same people) are capable of. IMHO, a regional who does not have its own code always runs this risk. None the less, my thoughts are with these fellow members of our union and it is hoped each and every one that needs a job, finds better than what they have now.

Remember what DAL did to Freedom? Welp. They're totally screwed. That sucks. Basically like being put on death row with a floating execution date 4 1/2 years in the future. But oh yeah. We're going to dismember you first.

Don't forget Mesa successfully renegotiated favorable CRJ-200 lease termination dates all through their Chapter 11. PNCL has precedence to do the same.

Bucking Bar 04-03-2012 10:12 AM

Freedom did rip Delta off for a few million, which greatly diminished their claims of Delta malfeasance. Sleepy Ed's Department wrote the checks. Perhaps with a bit better rest he would been able to catch that money before it went out the door.

TheManager 04-03-2012 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1163070)
Pinnacle's reorganization plan outlines Delta's management of PNCL:
  • 13 week operating plan and 1 year budget to be approved by Delta weekly
  • That plan REQUIRES labor cuts
  • If negotiated cuts are not successful, the plan REQUIRES PNCL seek rejection of the contracts through 1113
  • US Air, United and Saab flying down by end of 2012. EAS flying down by June
  • While the agreement provides 4 and 1/2 years on the CRJ200 flying, Delta can terminate for any breach (which Delta can unilaterally declare) and / or as the financing for each individual aircraft comes up.
  • CRJ 900's going to another operator
Yes, Pinnacle (and Delta, since Delta agreed to pay the increased cost) did just enter into a new PWA in February 2012... and yes, they are now demanding that the new PWA be rejected.

At mainline we have enjoyed a benevolent attitude from management. However, we should view Comair and now Pinnacle as a measure of what (in some cases the same people) are capable of. IMHO, a regional who does not have its own code always runs this risk. None the less, my thoughts are with these fellow members of our union and it is hoped each and every one that needs a job, finds better than what they have now.

1. Wow. Brutal. Remember the same folks that are demanding the above sit across from the table from our negotiators now.

2. About those negotiators, tell me again why we don't use professionals that are supported with pilots?

3. Glad the DC is in our own names as I don't think for a second that they would not use BK as a tool in the future if conditions permitted it.

Boomer 04-03-2012 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1163101)
...Perhaps with a bit better rest he would been able to catch that money before it went out the door.

I see what you did there. ;)

I've seen that "4 1/2 years" number before. Comair came out of BK in 2007 and 4.5 years later, our fleet is being parked at a rapid clip.

forgot to bid 04-03-2012 10:55 AM

Lots of purple TSRA's in DFW.


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