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Originally Posted by padre2992 (Post 1162846)

The NMB doesn't care what the synergies were. They (the NMB) are living in 2012, and asking what have you done lately?

Completely false. The NMB will (if they are asked to participate) look at everything in their determination of what is reasonable and achievable. When you say the NMB will be asking "what have you done lately", you literally sound like someone reading prepared talking points. As such you just sound dopey.

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Originally Posted by padre2992 (Post 1162846)

If a person doesn't want to participate in future steps, it's an option. We could follow the traditional path to Section 6. The value of whatever the company wants to exchange for our expedited contract would disappear. It's a choice.

Again, whoever is preparing your talking points doesn't understand a section 6 negotiations. What the company is willing to give is not one penny more than what they think the NMB would agree to anyway. Offering more would be a failure of management's fiduciary responsibilities. Going the traditional section 6 path is all about telling management that we disagree with what you think the NMB will allow. You and your talking point authors know this as well...which is why you are so desperately trying to talk us out of a section 6. You and your other cubicle residents are clearly afraid of a full section 6. We are not. We've waited over a decade for it.

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Originally Posted by padre2992 (Post 1162846)

Most pilots I talk to don't think 11% is enough. Most certainly think that 43% is for the lunatic fringe.

Would those be the pilots who swing by your cubicle to say hi?

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Originally Posted by padre2992 (Post 1162846)

Even staying in a Holiday Inn Express wouldn't qualify me as an Industrial Psychologist, or get me into a cubicle. Why does one have to know what seat and category a person is in? If he's in a position junior to you, does that make his logic less sound or his posts less valuable? Evaluate the words and thoughts, not the person.

Translation: Please stop asking about my position and base. I'm not really a Delta pilot so please change the subject. Please?

Carl

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Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1162903)

Hey Padre;

If we all put you on our ignore list, does that mean you will lose your job?

No, it just means he'll have to get back to those account receivables.

Carl

That's a different debate.

The 737 is a much more capable aircraft. It can fly from SLC to SJC and from SJC to JFK. Both probably much cheaper than the 88.

Because it is more capable, it should be paid more. Why? The pilots didn't buy it. We are only equipment operators. We don't get any extra bonus because of the way we operate the airplanes.. i.e. fuel underburn, saving time, etc... why do you suppose that is?

I don't even think the 88 can fly from SLC to ATL on a hot summer day, unless you take off without a full load.

I'm not trying to disrespect the 88 pilots (but you will anyway), because they work equally hard. It's just that when the pay was established on the 737N, it was high because of the contributions it made to the company bottom line. So, because it was done that way in years past means it is just as valid today?

The "Rogerina" made me smile. Excellent creativity

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Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1162720)

Kentucky will win tonight but it won't matter....it will be vacated when the NCAA finds Calipari again guilty of violations. Just like they did with his UMass and UMemphis final four teams. He's a shyster. Great recruiter but doesn't do it within the rules.

He's gonna have to recruit every year for the NBA, because it appears that he is the king of one and done. College basketball is being ruined right before our eyes... might as well start paying 'em.

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1162924)

He's gonna have to recruit every year for the NBA, because it appears that he is the king of one and done. College basketball is being ruined right before our eyes... might as well start paying 'em.

Yep, and its a shame. I'm from Chapel Hill and a UNC fan. Three of their best guys are bolting...at least they spent two years at Carolina.

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Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1162973)

Yep, and its a shame. I'm from Chapel Hill and a UNC fan. Three of their best guys are bolting...at least they spent two years at Carolina.

^^^^^^^ +1

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1162924)

He's gonna have to recruit every year for the NBA, because it appears that he is the king of one and done. College basketball is being ruined right before our eyes... might as well start paying 'em.

^^^^^^^ +2

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1162920)

I'm not sure the 737 is any more productive when stuck in trail behind a Douglas jet.

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1162924)

He's gonna have to recruit every year for the NBA, because it appears that he is the king of one and done. College basketball is being ruined right before our eyes... might as well start paying 'em.

Let's face it, no college athlete is a "kid" and most college sports is BIG BUSINESS! NCAA football and basketball are pretty close to a voluntary servitude when you consider the money amount of money universities make off their labor.

Offering a player like Anthony Davis a chance at a diploma for what he bring$ to the university is a joke. That goes for all athletes.

Pay'em all! (and I'm a UK fan)

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Originally Posted by jherk02 (Post 1163012)

Offering a player like Anthony Davis a chance at a diploma for what he bring$ to the university is a joke. That goes for all athletes.

Pay'em all! (and I'm a UK fan)

...and I don't doubt that his rate would exceed our 12-yr 747 CA rate...just to tie into this thread's primary topic ;)