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n9810f 04-02-2012 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1162477)
Unfortunately, I think I read that in the Pinnacle BK thread. Looks like those 50 seaters will be around through 2020. :mad:

That's because we lease them from Bombardier. We sublease all of them to Pinnacle. We're on the hook.

Carl Spackler 04-02-2012 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by Gearjerk (Post 1161825)
DO I NEED TO CONTINUE CARL? Is your thick cranium starting to understand? (You must be Norwegian?)

You, of all people Carl, shouldn't be the one making "speculative based" arguments about D-ALPA communication.

Huh, that's too bad. How many times have the donuts pushed to the right their expectations of a vote? Twice.

Not insulting anyone Carl. Quit being such a drama queen.

Your wife, assuming you're married, (highly doubtful) must be an angel to put up with someone like you, who's obviously never wrong.

DALPA communications at its best.

Carl

Guntrain11 04-02-2012 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1162732)
NMB? The company needs OUR help now. There must be something else brewing out there. That's called leverage. DALPA uses the NMB as a potential excuse for low balling it.

I'm looking around and I'm not seeing anybody that merged or had some deal shoved at them having a lot of leverage. Where are you seeing it?

Guntrain11 04-02-2012 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1162738)
Fine. I can live with that.

Live with what the delay that is in padres post? H&LL NO! I feel like the guy in the commercial. It's my money and I want it now!

padre2992 04-02-2012 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1162743)
As I've posted in the past, in my simple math using average pay rates, a 30% straight pay increase would cost the company ~$450M annually, which is clearly in reach in a company forecasting a $1.9B profit in 2012.


I've heard 1% is about $20 million, and I've heard 1% is $17 million. I have not heard 1% is $15 million.

I really couldn't judge if $450 million is a yes vote or not. Depends on scope.

DAL73n 04-02-2012 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1162749)
Well, since you're new here, how would you know that? Secondly, why don't you prove your bonafides by telling us what equipment you're on and where you're based? With 12,000 pilots, I don't think that crosses the line of an irresponsible request. Until you and More Bacon (or Kochbloch) demonstrate some sort of credibility, you're wasting our time......

Never appeared before and now has all kinds of analysis from the last two years - nobody lurks for that long.
+1 Buzz!!!!

scambo1 04-02-2012 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by Guntrain11 (Post 1162761)
Live with what the delay that is in padres post? H&LL NO! I feel like the guy in the commercial. It's my money and I want it now!

In a year from now regardless, DAL and DALPA have agreed to seek mediation. Is that really to much of a delay. I'm not emotional about this. We have been living with bankruptcy pay for years now, we need to get this right.

I do find it interesting that our (apparent) DALPA FPL crowd is out in force on this right now.

Underboob please...

TANSTAAFL 04-02-2012 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1162745)
That is what I'm stating.

What is going on at PNCL is a piece of the puzzle which when fully assembled is a realignment of Delta's narrow body jet flying.

Please explain how you think that would unfold.

padre2992 04-02-2012 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1162732)
NMB?There must be something else brewing out there.


Exactly Bill. We know the company wants something now, and we can guess that with the AMR bankruptcy, there will be a second step. Maybe this deal is just the first of a multiple step set of deals, with each one returning something to the Delta pilot group.

So, take the risk with step one, or does sitting on the sidelines for step one mean we do not participate in step two?

scambo1 04-02-2012 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by padre2992 (Post 1162770)
Exactly Bill. We know the company wants something now, and we can guess that with the AMR bankruptcy, there will be a second step. Maybe this deal is just the first of a multiple step set of deals, with each one returning something to the Delta pilot group.

So, take the risk with step one, or does sitting on the sidelines for step one mean we do not participate in step two?

I can only picture Lucy pulling the football after this statement.


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