Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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Which class was that? I don't think anyone from my class has left. Maybe one person within the first couple months, I'm not sure, but definitely since then none. I hope you are from a class before me.
Question: Can we get rid of DCI and do that flying inhouse?
Dishonest Answer: No, you're too expensive based on per hour pay which is the only factor here. There would be no synergies gained from a merger/plane grab because there are no overlapping costs, or guaranteed profits, or loss revenue from quality conformity, or whatever else you can come up with. Simply, we cost too much and are FO's are super expensive.
Honest Answer: We couldn't get that flying back if we wanted and then somewhat tried. It's a whipsaw, it has value. So if you'd just please not expect to get it back then we won't disappoint you and we won't get sued by a regional lifer.
Dishonest Answer: No, you're too expensive based on per hour pay which is the only factor here. There would be no synergies gained from a merger/plane grab because there are no overlapping costs, or guaranteed profits, or loss revenue from quality conformity, or whatever else you can come up with. Simply, we cost too much and are FO's are super expensive.
Honest Answer: We couldn't get that flying back if we wanted and then somewhat tried. It's a whipsaw, it has value. So if you'd just please not expect to get it back then we won't disappoint you and we won't get sued by a regional lifer.
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Clamp,
The water is still flowing.......pm me sometime.
Regards,
BG
The water is still flowing.......pm me sometime.
Regards,
BG
Slowplay, Here are some “facts” for you:
2011 Q 4 Operating Revenue %'s
Mainline DOM 44.5
Mainline INT 33.9
Mainline Total 78.4
Regional Total 21.6
Excluding International, DCI makes of 32.6% of domestic revenue.
For all of 2011 Regional Revenue made up 21.1 % of the total.
2011 Q4 RMP's and ASMs %.
Mainline RPMs 86.8
Mainline ASMs 86.3
Regional RPMs 13.2
Regional ASMs 13.7
For all of 2011 DCI RPMs and ASMs = 13% and 13.7%
Summary
Mainline 86.8% RPMs = 78.4% Revenue
DCI 13.2% RPM = 21.6% Revenue
Based on these “facts” here is what I see. There is a premium currently being made at DCI that if put in line with Mainline revenue should help pay for any increases in pay needed to bring all flying back in house or at very least the 50+ seat flying with its lower CASM and First Class seating revenue potential.
I will grant you that it will cost more money to do this flying at mainline however there are also a lot of “synergies” to be had by eliminating multiple management and operational structures as well as the efficiency of scheduling one Large fleet of pilots and airplanes verses 9 small ones. Combining the efficiencies of operation and placing the revenues in line with other mainline flying should make this a proposition worth pursuing by DALPA. As it stands now we do get a little of this, out of proportion, DCI revenue through profit sharing however I would much rather see all of that flying being done by Delta pilots at Delta pay rates.
vpr
2011 Q 4 Operating Revenue %'s
Mainline DOM 44.5
Mainline INT 33.9
Mainline Total 78.4
Regional Total 21.6
Excluding International, DCI makes of 32.6% of domestic revenue.
For all of 2011 Regional Revenue made up 21.1 % of the total.
2011 Q4 RMP's and ASMs %.
Mainline RPMs 86.8
Mainline ASMs 86.3
Regional RPMs 13.2
Regional ASMs 13.7
For all of 2011 DCI RPMs and ASMs = 13% and 13.7%
Summary
Mainline 86.8% RPMs = 78.4% Revenue
DCI 13.2% RPM = 21.6% Revenue
Based on these “facts” here is what I see. There is a premium currently being made at DCI that if put in line with Mainline revenue should help pay for any increases in pay needed to bring all flying back in house or at very least the 50+ seat flying with its lower CASM and First Class seating revenue potential.
I will grant you that it will cost more money to do this flying at mainline however there are also a lot of “synergies” to be had by eliminating multiple management and operational structures as well as the efficiency of scheduling one Large fleet of pilots and airplanes verses 9 small ones. Combining the efficiencies of operation and placing the revenues in line with other mainline flying should make this a proposition worth pursuing by DALPA. As it stands now we do get a little of this, out of proportion, DCI revenue through profit sharing however I would much rather see all of that flying being done by Delta pilots at Delta pay rates.
vpr
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Personally, I'm here for the duration, but I can certainly understand the thought process.
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