Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-08-2012 | 04:47 PM
Da Hudge
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Best part...those guys are unelected and not responsible to the membership. Not even to the LEC reps. They only answer to the MEC Chairman.
There was a resolution a few cycles ago that would have had the committee chairmen stand for election by the reps, but the old guard had their votes lined up, and the votes in play didn't want to rock the boat.
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There was a resolution a few cycles ago that would have had the committee chairmen stand for election by the reps, but the old guard had their votes lined up, and the votes in play didn't want to rock the boat.
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04-08-2012 | 04:48 PM
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04-08-2012 | 04:49 PM
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So could the DALPA contract span to more than one company? The regional would get their pilots from Delta and pay in accordance with the Delta contract. All the pilots would be on a master list and could bid between companies as seniority allow. I know it may not be something you can institute now, but just an idea.
No spin intended. If we can surmount competitors with lower compensation at mainline and still get a raise, why do costs take on a more significant meaning at the DCI level? If I am misinterpreting you on this I apologize.
Sorry that "showcase" makes you think of Bob Barker, that really is unfortunate. I am totally amenable to any suitable substitution that you recommend.
Sorry that "showcase" makes you think of Bob Barker, that really is unfortunate. I am totally amenable to any suitable substitution that you recommend.
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The whole scope and relationship between DAL the DCI carriers and ALPA pilots would need to morph. It is possible though. Reality is the pilots here have to put a dogmatic change in the way scope is written at number one and mean it. Until then we will continue to have the debate.
I get the logic in your numbers, but I'm only getting the "why/how we can't capture that flying". But what I'm looking for is the outside-the box thinking that tells me how we can ensure more (much more) of the flying is done by pilots on our list. I'm open to a range of options that would not concede the low-end of the gauge. Do you also think in those terms, and how would you move small-gauge scope forward in a future contract?
04-08-2012 | 04:50 PM
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What was I spinning? Yours an alphas posts illustrate exactly what is wrong with the current administration.
I've got friends up at national and they are just as displeased with the way the Moak generation runs things as many of us are here.
I've got friends up at national and they are just as displeased with the way the Moak generation runs things as many of us are here.
04-08-2012 | 04:53 PM
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Improve protections for domestic and international codeshare
Improve balance of flying between Delta and DCI
Change the definition of “permitted aircraft type” to include propeller and geared turbo-fan aircraft
Add new language to restrict the use of permitted and non-permitted aircraft within holding companies
04-08-2012 | 04:56 PM
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Please reread the opener on Section 1, a portion posted here.
Add new language to restrict the use of permitted and non-permitted aircraft within holding companies
Improve protections for domestic and international codeshare
Improve balance of flying between Delta and DCI
Change the definition of “permitted aircraft type” to include propeller and geared turbo-fan aircraft
Add new language to restrict the use of permitted and non-permitted aircraft within holding companies
04-08-2012 | 05:03 PM
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I'm all for a better way to run things. Show me one and convince me that it works. I'll be with you, and won't even throw rocks from the sidelines. Otherwise, I'll stick with the plan that has put more money in pilot pockets.
04-08-2012 | 05:05 PM
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All on one page! It's like reading (a smarter version of) Bacon's stuff.
You started out with a great question. Then you jump right into the full sales pitch with the next sentence. I'd like an answer before get all "alternative union" on this beotch.
04-08-2012 | 05:08 PM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
The no spin zone is a Plantation. We work in the big house. Others toil in the field performing work we do not want to do. In fact the Master of the house thinks we are nuts to want to go and pick our own damn cotton. Better, they say, to conspire with management to keep the labor in the field cheap while we share the rewards of the Plantation's output.
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04-08-2012 | 05:08 PM
Da Hudge
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"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams, 'Argument in Defense of the Soldiers in the Boston Massacre Trials,' December 1770
I'm all for a better way to run things. Show me one and convince me that it works. I'll be with you, and won't even throw rocks from the sidelines. Otherwise, I'll stick with the plan that has put more money in pilot pockets.
I'm all for a better way to run things. Show me one and convince me that it works. I'll be with you, and won't even throw rocks from the sidelines. Otherwise, I'll stick with the plan that has put more money in pilot pockets.
The "fact" is that you're so stuck in your ways that you can't see anything that is outside of the box.
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