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ALPA could have facilitated the PID but instead created an absolutely insane construct of what "operational integration" was tailored specifically to exclude ASA/CMR and then tried to clean the rest up with bylaws and the executive structure caste system.
ASA/CMR cut their own throats when they, too, were overcome with mass arrogance thinking there was no escape from their policy mandate and that soon they would be committed to a merger and from that position of nothing to lose, they would swing for the fences using "the policy" to go for DOH...knowing they almost definately wouldn't get it, but anxious that "the process" would get them something inbetween DOH and a staple, which was the mother of all windfalls and they would rather risk the whole thing than give up on that fantasy.
Back to point, ALPA/DALPA very much has a massive role to play in our seniority list and its integration with others or not. Arguably, its one of the biggest and most basic functions of ALPA at the DAL level...the DL pilot's seniority list. If it weren't, management would just divide the list tomorrow 50 ways and let us all duke it out underbidding eachother. Thankfully it doesn't work that way.
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As bad as we are with being short sighted, other work groups get it less because they don't even really get what scope even is. When they are told we are bringing thousands of new FA jobs in house but they will be on a B scale or isolated at a separate company or they will have to "pay for it" then they will pencil whip their own B scales faster then ALPA ever dreamed of doing.
but why on earth would they agree to eat that cost, or no make us pay for it when by our PWA there is no reason for them to bring the flying back.
What I am showing you is the cost benefits of outsourcing. Pilot labor costs are a small fraction of the savings
The days may be numbered, but the practice still exists, and when they start accounting for the cost of the debt as it is structured today, they will change the structure.
The key for the DAL pilots is to find a way to make the winning argument and stance for DAL seniority listed pilots to be ay the controls, no matter who "owns" the jet, or who turns the wrenches et al. We can do it, but we need a stronger commitment to force the issue from this pilot group. Until that happens, no much will change.
You can disagree but it saves them a ton of money in outsourcing. Airlines like SKW were able to get better rates on the debt, reduce DAL's visibility and debt service reporting, all the while keeping the virtual network alive and well. In the end we voted for it.
Last edited by gloopy; 04-09-2012 at 04:00 PM.
I do agree, the ppl here are awesome. Don't know any double breasted ............
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Or just go buy an Andriod phone and marvel in the 21st Century. Really. Spent some time with an iPhone recently, it's about as cutting edge as Debbie Gibson.
Don't know if you heard, Windows is launching a Google Glass copy:
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I'd look on the internet and get the dis assembly gouge, or take it to any local mall that has fix it guru.
Or just go buy an Andriod phone and marvel in the 21st Century. Really. Spent some time with an iPhone recently, it's about as cutting edge as Debbie Gibson.
Don't know if you heard, Windows is launching a Google Glass copy:
Windows Project Glass: One day too... - YouTube
Or just go buy an Andriod phone and marvel in the 21st Century. Really. Spent some time with an iPhone recently, it's about as cutting edge as Debbie Gibson.
Don't know if you heard, Windows is launching a Google Glass copy:
Windows Project Glass: One day too... - YouTube
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