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Old 04-24-2012, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Express pilot View Post
Give them a record SLI. On a 40% paycut, pensions gone, work rules slashed, scope and they think that was the best they can do? Come on
I'm not really following you here. It might be a punctuation thing or a complete thought thing. Help me out.

Make no mistake, the MEC during that time was scared to death...
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk View Post
Subsidized........Owned.......ehh.......Scemantics

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Delta owns Comair. Delta subsidizes Pinnacle, Alaska and Republic.
Similar, yet different I guess.
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk View Post
They can afford to fly those 380's all over the world, at 50% capacity, with the price of jet fuel in the Middle East. What is it up to now, $0.50/gal of Jet A?

Add insult to injury, isn't EK subsidized by the Royal Family/Government? I'm unaware of this fact, just asking out of curiosity?

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They buy their jet A from Singspore and have it shipped in. No kidding. They do not lay the asinine landing fees we pay in DXB though.
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Express pilot View Post
I don't need to be preached to. I will vote no unless 20% and scope changes. I'm saying a TA comes and everyone you fly with says it won't pass and it passes. Example why did we vote in the last TA after we got NW. It was the same TA we just got and DALPA told us we would get a better deal once NW was with us and DALPA brings us a TA with the same stuff with just minor gains. Green Slip and SC from 8 to 6. Vote that down. Its passed. Thats what scares me.
I think you expectations are too low.
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
I think you expectations are too low.
Agreed! 30%, scope regain, and work rule improvements! Or I'm a no.
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:58 PM
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Agreed! 30%, scope regain, and work rule improvements! Or I'm a no.
Not going to state what my mins are but scope pay work rules and retirement are a must. Section 1 needs serious protections for us and if the company values constructive engagement they will be more than happy to agree to our demands.


We must pattern well above the top of the industry and we must have up side protections for when not if this company triples or quadruples its profits under this agreement.

We have leverage right now whether or not we think we do. All of this talk in the news about consolidation affirms my belief that once this deal is done the events start happening.
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
Not going to state what my mins are but scope pay work rules and retirement are a must. Section 1 needs serious protections for us and if the company values constructive engagement they will be more than happy to agree to our demands.


We must pattern well above the top of the industry and we must have up side protections for when not if this company triples or quadruples its profits under this agreement.

We have leverage right now whether or not we think we do. All of this talk in the news about consolidation affirms my belief that once this deal is done the events start happening.
Right there with ya.

Buzz is cheap tho too, who da thot.
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
Not going to state what my mins are but scope pay work rules and retirement are a must. Section 1 needs serious protections for us and if the company values constructive engagement they will be more than happy to agree to our demands.


We must pattern well above the top of the industry and we must have up side protections for when not if this company triples or quadruples its profits under this agreement.

We have leverage right now whether or not we think we do. All of this talk in the news about consolidation affirms my belief that once this deal is done the events start happening.
here here!

or is it "hear hear?"

Well, regardless... what he said.
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
We have leverage right now whether or not we think we do. All of this talk in the news about consolidation affirms my belief that once this deal is done the events start happening.
Going back a number of pages to the LCA meeting notes, someone mentioned the companies projection in the next few years is 2.5-3 Billion a year in profits! That's double what we're doing right now. It's time that more of the profits that Delta makes finds it's way into our pockets.

I agree, after AMR settles the US will have 4 large airlines and a few smaller ones.
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
I think you expectations are too low.
I'll change that to two or three and go with 30%
Come out west with the family and stay with us. I'll take you up to Aledo to show you some land for our new hub.
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