Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
at other ALPA RJ carriers. The more RJ pilots that find "career enhancing value" in ALPA membership, it will lead to:1) More members and associated dues
2) a greater degree of leverage for all ALPA pilots at the neg. table
3) better pooling/division of dues(so there will be less subsidizing),
4) better ability to build a strong contractual foundation that negates the value of outsourcing in the long term
5) more influence in DC to positively affect the profession
I'm sick and tired of parasites who use the gains of ALPA pilots to piggyback those hard earned improvements in their own agreements while constantly slightly undercutting and putting downward pressure on the rest of us, making the gains even harder to get.
It was a great day when I finally woke up and realized I was a trade unionist. Hope all airline pilots have the eureka moment sooner rather than later.
Then I got to A10 and saw Greensboro on the board. Then I stopped smiling. I wasn't going to Greensboro.
If you go back and read the post to which I responded, you'll see that the poster thought that we should blindly hire all ALPA pilots first. I think that Delta has been doing a good job hiring guys in the past; we should let them continue to do what they've done so well.
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I laughed about this for a while yesterday. Even while walking down the concourse to gate A10. People must have wondered why that pilot was laugh ing to himself. It's the airport, you're supposed to look mad or annoyed. No smiling.
Then I got to A10 and saw Greensboro on the board. Then I stopped smiling. I wasn't going to Greensboro.
Then I got to A10 and saw Greensboro on the board. Then I stopped smiling. I wasn't going to Greensboro.
The pilots of United and Continental Airlines, after more than two years of negotiating with the company for a joint collective bargaining agreement, and with the assistance of the National Mediation Board (NMB), have reached an agreement-in-principle (AIP) with United Continental Holdings, Inc., on major economic issues. While some details of an agreement still remain open, the pilots are confident a final AIP can be worked out in the coming days.
“After working under a bankruptcy contract for nearly 10 years, the substantial contributions of the pilots in helping United Airlines survive its darkest economic days and make the United/Continental merger possible will, at last, be respected and rewarded,” said Captain Jay Heppner, chairman of the United Master Executive Council of the Air Line Pilots Association. “This pilot group has endured more than its share of sacrifices since 9/11. We have flown through the airline’s bankruptcy, taking drastic pay cuts and losing our pensions. We’ve witnessed the loss of thousands of United pilot jobs through outsourcing and off-shoring.
“This is a great win for the pilots, a great win for the American people, a great win for those who put safety first in America, and a great win for U.S. jobs. Once today’s agreements are finalized and approved by our membership, we look forward to getting to work under this new agreement and doing what we do best, which is providing United customers with a safe and comfortable traveling experience.
“We stand at the threshold of a new day at United Airlines and we are ready to join forces with our Continental brethren to help build the new United into the world’s preeminent airline.”
“After many years of enduring the hardships of concessionary and bankruptcy-era contracts, we are pleased to have finally reached an agreement that will allow our pilots and their families to see gains in compensation, work rules, job protections, and retirement and benefits,” said Captain Jay Pierce, chairman of the ALPA unit representing Continental pilots. “Our pilots must be recognized for the hundreds of millions of dollars in annual givebacks that ultimately allowed our airline to remain competitive, prosper and avoid the economic turmoil that befell others in the industry. Further, they deserve to be recognized for their role in building the success of the company and for the role they will play in the success of the merger of equals with United. We are pleased to be able to move forward with true progress towards completion of the merger of our airlines. Once there is pilot approval of this contract, the operations of the two airlines can finally begin to be integrated for the ultimate benefit of our passengers, pilots and United employees, and shareholders. We can begin to deliver on the promise of the world’s largest and best airline.”
Negotiations for the JCBA have been under the supervision of the National Mediation Board (NMB). Terms of the agreement must now be converted into a tentative agreement (TA). Until that process is complete, details of the TA will not be released. The TA will be presented independently to ALPA’s governing bodies for each of the Continental and United pilot groups for consideration. If approved, it will be sent to the pilots of both carriers for a combined ratification vote.
“After working under a bankruptcy contract for nearly 10 years, the substantial contributions of the pilots in helping United Airlines survive its darkest economic days and make the United/Continental merger possible will, at last, be respected and rewarded,” said Captain Jay Heppner, chairman of the United Master Executive Council of the Air Line Pilots Association. “This pilot group has endured more than its share of sacrifices since 9/11. We have flown through the airline’s bankruptcy, taking drastic pay cuts and losing our pensions. We’ve witnessed the loss of thousands of United pilot jobs through outsourcing and off-shoring.
“This is a great win for the pilots, a great win for the American people, a great win for those who put safety first in America, and a great win for U.S. jobs. Once today’s agreements are finalized and approved by our membership, we look forward to getting to work under this new agreement and doing what we do best, which is providing United customers with a safe and comfortable traveling experience.
“We stand at the threshold of a new day at United Airlines and we are ready to join forces with our Continental brethren to help build the new United into the world’s preeminent airline.”
“After many years of enduring the hardships of concessionary and bankruptcy-era contracts, we are pleased to have finally reached an agreement that will allow our pilots and their families to see gains in compensation, work rules, job protections, and retirement and benefits,” said Captain Jay Pierce, chairman of the ALPA unit representing Continental pilots. “Our pilots must be recognized for the hundreds of millions of dollars in annual givebacks that ultimately allowed our airline to remain competitive, prosper and avoid the economic turmoil that befell others in the industry. Further, they deserve to be recognized for their role in building the success of the company and for the role they will play in the success of the merger of equals with United. We are pleased to be able to move forward with true progress towards completion of the merger of our airlines. Once there is pilot approval of this contract, the operations of the two airlines can finally begin to be integrated for the ultimate benefit of our passengers, pilots and United employees, and shareholders. We can begin to deliver on the promise of the world’s largest and best airline.”
Negotiations for the JCBA have been under the supervision of the National Mediation Board (NMB). Terms of the agreement must now be converted into a tentative agreement (TA). Until that process is complete, details of the TA will not be released. The TA will be presented independently to ALPA’s governing bodies for each of the Continental and United pilot groups for consideration. If approved, it will be sent to the pilots of both carriers for a combined ratification vote.
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Hey guys a mental exercise for FAA/ reserve stuff. Question. Is a pilot required under the contract or FAR's to be contactable during his/her 24 hour break?
Scenario
Finished trip and assigned 24 hour break. During break company calls and I don't answer (dont have to). When I come back on duty at 11am company says I have short call at 3pm. Aren't we required 12 hours heads up for short call or trip assignment?
ALPAs position is that even during the break I am contactable, but just not required to answer the phone but still obligated to the contractual 12 hour heads up.
I thought I was free from ALL duty during a 24 hour break? If they wanted me to fly a trip or start short call on returning to duty they had to assign it to me before the start of my break. Any takers?
Scenario
Finished trip and assigned 24 hour break. During break company calls and I don't answer (dont have to). When I come back on duty at 11am company says I have short call at 3pm. Aren't we required 12 hours heads up for short call or trip assignment?
ALPAs position is that even during the break I am contactable, but just not required to answer the phone but still obligated to the contractual 12 hour heads up.
I thought I was free from ALL duty during a 24 hour break? If they wanted me to fly a trip or start short call on returning to duty they had to assign it to me before the start of my break. Any takers?
Then the fun began as I got to do the walk of shame and open the aft stairs from inside the tail cone. It only took two visits to the cockpit to double check that I had the correct handle to lower the stairs.
Needless to say it was a total embarrassment for DAL and nerve racking for me....YES we should train the aft stairs on a real airplane at least once if not once every other year!
Needless to say it was a total embarrassment for DAL and nerve racking for me....YES we should train the aft stairs on a real airplane at least once if not once every other year!
I laughed about this for a while yesterday. Even while walking down the concourse to gate A10. People must have wondered why that pilot was laugh ing to himself. It's the airport, you're supposed to look mad or annoyed. No smiling.
Then I got to A10 and saw Greensboro on the board. Then I stopped smiling. I wasn't going to Greensboro.
Then I got to A10 and saw Greensboro on the board. Then I stopped smiling. I wasn't going to Greensboro.

ps Thanks <diety> the TA stuff is gone and this thread has its creativity restored!
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