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Hey guys a mental exercise for FAA/ reserve stuff. Question. Is a pilot required under the contract or FAR's to be contactable during his/her 24 hour break?
Scenario
Finished trip and assigned 24 hour break. During break company calls and I don't answer (dont have to). When I come back on duty at 11am company says I have short call at 3pm. Aren't we required 12 hours heads up for short call or trip assignment?
ALPAs position is that even during the break I am contactable, but just not required to answer the phone but still obligated to the contractual 12 hour heads up.
I thought I was free from ALL duty during a 24 hour break? If they wanted me to fly a trip or start short call on returning to duty they had to assign it to me before the start of my break. Any takers?
Scenario
Finished trip and assigned 24 hour break. During break company calls and I don't answer (dont have to). When I come back on duty at 11am company says I have short call at 3pm. Aren't we required 12 hours heads up for short call or trip assignment?
ALPAs position is that even during the break I am contactable, but just not required to answer the phone but still obligated to the contractual 12 hour heads up.
I thought I was free from ALL duty during a 24 hour break? If they wanted me to fly a trip or start short call on returning to duty they had to assign it to me before the start of my break. Any takers?
Then the fun began as I got to do the walk of shame and open the aft stairs from inside the tail cone. It only took two visits to the cockpit to double check that I had the correct handle to lower the stairs.
Needless to say it was a total embarrassment for DAL and nerve racking for me....YES we should train the aft stairs on a real airplane at least once if not once every other year!
Needless to say it was a total embarrassment for DAL and nerve racking for me....YES we should train the aft stairs on a real airplane at least once if not once every other year!
I laughed about this for a while yesterday. Even while walking down the concourse to gate A10. People must have wondered why that pilot was laugh ing to himself. It's the airport, you're supposed to look mad or annoyed. No smiling.
Then I got to A10 and saw Greensboro on the board. Then I stopped smiling. I wasn't going to Greensboro.
Then I got to A10 and saw Greensboro on the board. Then I stopped smiling. I wasn't going to Greensboro.
ps Thanks <diety> the TA stuff is gone and this thread has its creativity restored!
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I just got a call from crew resources telling me that my RMA has been approved with a retirement date of 01SEP. Time to get out of the way. The only sad part is that my last flight was in the right seat giving CA TOE. Didn't even get the landing. I wish all of you the best of luck for the future at the BIG D. I really believe that the best is yet to come. I will still keep lurking here however.
Hey guys a mental exercise for FAA/ reserve stuff. Question. Is a pilot required under the contract or FAR's to be contactable during his/her 24 hour break?
Scenario
Finished trip and assigned 24 hour break. During break company calls and I don't answer (dont have to). When I come back on duty at 11am company says I have short call at 3pm. Aren't we required 12 hours heads up for short call or trip assignment?
ALPAs position is that even during the break I am contactable, but just not required to answer the phone but still obligated to the contractual 12 hour heads up.
I thought I was free from ALL duty during a 24 hour break? If they wanted me to fly a trip or start short call on returning to duty they had to assign it to me before the start of my break. Any takers?
Scenario
Finished trip and assigned 24 hour break. During break company calls and I don't answer (dont have to). When I come back on duty at 11am company says I have short call at 3pm. Aren't we required 12 hours heads up for short call or trip assignment?
ALPAs position is that even during the break I am contactable, but just not required to answer the phone but still obligated to the contractual 12 hour heads up.
I thought I was free from ALL duty during a 24 hour break? If they wanted me to fly a trip or start short call on returning to duty they had to assign it to me before the start of my break. Any takers?
For a non-fl y day that does not end at midnight, e.g., Pay Back (PB)
day or Partial Reserve (PR) day, the deadline for placement on the
schedule is 9 hours prior to end of the day, and the deadline for the
schedule check is 2 hours following the end of the day. The earliest
that a pilot may be required to report for a rotation or start short call
is 5 hours following the end of the day. He may be assigned to begin
rest immediately following the end of the non-fl y day.
The last non-fl y day check is not required on a day in which the pilot:
a. Is on vacation.
b. Performs, or is scheduled to perform, flying for the company.
c. Participates in training, including travel days.
d. Is removed from his scheduled rotation for company
convenience.
e. Is on company business.
f. Performs an SLI duty period, including a flex day.
If they don't call before that 9 hour mark, then the 12 hour clock starts at the end of the 24 hr off. If you ended your 24 hr at 11, then the SC should be no earlier than 4, which is 5 hr after the end of the 24.
day or Partial Reserve (PR) day, the deadline for placement on the
schedule is 9 hours prior to end of the day, and the deadline for the
schedule check is 2 hours following the end of the day. The earliest
that a pilot may be required to report for a rotation or start short call
is 5 hours following the end of the day. He may be assigned to begin
rest immediately following the end of the non-fl y day.
The last non-fl y day check is not required on a day in which the pilot:
a. Is on vacation.
b. Performs, or is scheduled to perform, flying for the company.
c. Participates in training, including travel days.
d. Is removed from his scheduled rotation for company
convenience.
e. Is on company business.
f. Performs an SLI duty period, including a flex day.
Last edited by UncleSam; 08-03-2012 at 09:29 AM.
I just got a call from crew resources telling me that my RMA has been approved with a retirement date of 01SEP. Time to get out of the way. The only sad part is that my last flight was in the right seat giving CA TOE. Didn't even get the landing. I wish all of you the best of luck for the future at the BIG D. I really believe that the best is yet to come. I will still keep lurking here however.
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I just got a call from crew resources telling me that my RMA has been approved with a retirement date of 01SEP. Time to get out of the way. The only sad part is that my last flight was in the right seat giving CA TOE. Didn't even get the landing. I wish all of you the best of luck for the future at the BIG D. I really believe that the best is yet to come. I will still keep lurking here however.
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