Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Gets Weekends Off
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At my previous airline minor maintenance issue at outstation (LAV)...
1) Call MX
2) Write up LAV
3) Pilot defers LAV, places sticker in cockpit, locks LAV and tells PAX to take care of business prior to boarding
2 minute process
Same issue at DCI carrier at outstation (LAV)...
1) Call MX
2) Write up LAV
3) MX tells pilot that mechanic has been called and will be there in 1.5-2 hours to defer LAV, place sticker in cockpit, lock LAV and tells PAX to take care of business prior to boarding
2.5 hour process with entire flight missing connection.
Got to admit, makes everybody think twice about calling MX.
1) Call MX
2) Write up LAV
3) Pilot defers LAV, places sticker in cockpit, locks LAV and tells PAX to take care of business prior to boarding
2 minute process
Same issue at DCI carrier at outstation (LAV)...
1) Call MX
2) Write up LAV
3) MX tells pilot that mechanic has been called and will be there in 1.5-2 hours to defer LAV, place sticker in cockpit, lock LAV and tells PAX to take care of business prior to boarding
2.5 hour process with entire flight missing connection.
Got to admit, makes everybody think twice about calling MX.
Gets Weekends Off
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These facets of Delta doing its business, growth no growth, stagnation today growth tomorrow, grow today furlough tomorrow, would have happened whether or not this TA was voted in OR voted out. I dont like it anymore than no voters or yes voters. We are just the gear pullers and no matter how many times we vote no or hold our breath DAL management will manage regardless of how we think we can control the outcome.
It is fallacy to think any different. JMHO Hockey no dissin intended!
It is fallacy to think any different. JMHO Hockey no dissin intended!
Can't abide NAI
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
At my previous airline minor maintenance issue at outstation (LAV)...
1) Call MX
2) Write up LAV
3) Pilot defers LAV, places sticker in cockpit, locks LAV and tells PAX to take care of business prior to boarding
2 minute process
Same issue at DCI carrier at outstation (LAV)...
1) Call MX
2) Write up LAV
3) MX tells pilot that mechanic has been called and will be there in 1.5-2 hours to defer LAV, place sticker in cockpit, lock LAV and tells PAX to take care of business prior to boarding
2.5 hour process with entire flight missing connection.
Got to admit, makes everybody think twice about calling MX.
1) Call MX
2) Write up LAV
3) Pilot defers LAV, places sticker in cockpit, locks LAV and tells PAX to take care of business prior to boarding
2 minute process
Same issue at DCI carrier at outstation (LAV)...
1) Call MX
2) Write up LAV
3) MX tells pilot that mechanic has been called and will be there in 1.5-2 hours to defer LAV, place sticker in cockpit, lock LAV and tells PAX to take care of business prior to boarding
2.5 hour process with entire flight missing connection.
Got to admit, makes everybody think twice about calling MX.Candidly, who can blame them? Pinnacle's in bankruptcy. Colgan's departed. Expressjet is losing money, Skywest is picking a fight with Delta, Republic's got no clear future, management will barely commit to Comair for the next 60 days. What motivation do these employees really have?
Point being, "they aint our passengers... who cares, maybe the next flight will cancel and I can go home early. Hey, did you hear Wendy's is hiring? They pay fifty cents more per hour."
Candidly, who can blame them? Pinnacle's in bankruptcy. Colgan's departed. Expressjet is losing money, Skywest is picking a fight with Delta, Republic's got no clear future, management will barely commit to Comair for the next 60 days. What motivation do these employees really have?
Candidly, who can blame them? Pinnacle's in bankruptcy. Colgan's departed. Expressjet is losing money, Skywest is picking a fight with Delta, Republic's got no clear future, management will barely commit to Comair for the next 60 days. What motivation do these employees really have?
Clean employment history to get hired at mainline?

As for SKW, we will see if its a real fight or a point of opportunity for both parties. Time will tell.
Bad day at UCH, stock down 7% on failing to meet analysts' expectations (expecting $1.60/share, earning $1.40/share). Add to that a crew force that's voted overwhelmingly to go on strike.
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In response to Delta's continuing efforts to improve the customer service experience and build on its commitment to its customers, (secret airline's name here) new guidelines concerning passenger comfort restrictions on the aircraft are as follows:
- Minimum Lavatory Deferral Standards - No flight may depart with less than one operative lavatory on a flight exceeding 60 minutes without prior coordination and approval from SOCC...
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From: Doing what you do, for less.
From a secret company manual at an unnamed DCI carrier:
In response to Delta's continuing efforts to improve the customer service experience and build on its commitment to its customers, (secret airline's name here) new guidelines concerning passenger comfort restrictions on the aircraft are as follows:
In response to Delta's continuing efforts to improve the customer service experience and build on its commitment to its customers, (secret airline's name here) new guidelines concerning passenger comfort restrictions on the aircraft are as follows:
- Minimum Lavatory Deferral Standards - No flight may depart with less than one operative lavatory on a flight exceeding 60 minutes without prior coordination and approval from SOCC...
I'm sure SOCC approval would take 10 seconds and not a single thought. They care about performance not passengers.
It's probably somewhere between "the law of unintended consequences" and "last time we tried to adapt/improvise/overcome we got spanked, so just wait for MX"
ATL A320 B
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From: No longer MEM or 9, but still a guy.
Not questioning the crew. Captain was doing all he could to get things moving. I just got the feeling that he was stuck working within a very poor system without much help.
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