Great article! Thank you for posting.

Scope for Sale?
 

Quote from FLy2002:


Our union, faced with decertification, still does not have the stones to say that scope in any form is not for sale. As mentioned earlier...it's the silence that is telling the story of what is going on.

Fly2002




Fly,

Scope does not have to be for sale, it was already sold:



[QUOTE=Bucking Bar;1177852]communications, let us begin our evaluation there.


Year - Contract 2000 / Concession / Concession Date & Contractual Reference
2001 - baseline DCI was < 34%
2002 - 34% / 44 to 48% / Reset Agreement - LOA 29
2003 - 36% / 44 to 48% / see above
2004 - 37% / 50% / Restructuring Agreement - LOA 46
2005 - 37% / Removed


So for all the guys who say Scope is not for sale - great I agree. Scope is my number 1 issue - but our Scope was already sold. Look at the percentages Bar posted above, look at the ALK flying out west, look at our Joint ventures, Codeshares, and who knows what Scope monstrosity our future might hold if we are not prudent this time around.

Just saying Scope is not for sale does not cut it - we need to improve our Scope - a Scope "purchase" if you will. I hope the negotiating team is doing this and I have no reason to believe otherwise.

The 50 seaters are going away. Good riddance, and lets not waste any capital on them, but we still have a ton of other Scope issues that need addressing. Our negotiating team cannot wave a magic wand and have us start over. So I am willing to look at Scope in its entirety. If we can tighten Scope in all the other areas by allowing more 70 seaters maybe we should consider it. I know, I cringe every time I type this, but we are already in the hole, and just saying scope is not for sale will not get us out.

Standing by for incoming. :rolleyes:

Scoop

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Baja.

Here is another paragraph I thought was great:

In short, while the turnaround plan offered by American’s management relies solely on $800 million in annual cost cutting, mostly in the form of labor savings, the merger with US Airways is premised on $1.2 billion in synergies that result in large part from increased revenue as the merged carrier achieves the scale and scope necessary to compete with industry leaders United and Delta.


The more I read about the UsAir takeover of AA, the more I think it will happen. Overnight, Dougie will have PHL/LGA-ish, DCA, MIA, CLT, DFW, ORD, PHX, LAX and whatever else.

Sure they'll slim down in a couple of places, but not in places where DAL would hope to take an advantage. I can't see AMR being split up at this point. So I don't see us gaining MIA because it's way too valuable or ramping up DFW especially with the Wright Amendment fading away in 2014. And on the west coast, I think they could redeploy PHX to cover Alaska flying.

And I do see things between a Dougie Parker AMR and DAL getting very testy.

So if that all proves to be the case, AMR+USAir, reduction in AMR's use of Alaska, a swerving Dougie Parker led AMR and almost complete ownership of the east coast, then what's our hurry again with this TA?

Time is never on our side thanks to the RLA, so why give it up when it is?

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Not sure it'll help, but that's how I look at it also. If you think about it, we've been leading up to this ever since the opener, when people felt "improve Scope" was too vague. Some will not vote for a contract where we don't improve everything about Scope. I might vote for a contract that improves Scope in the aggregate, but it's going to take some very significant improvements overall, to purchase the right to get out of the 50-seat mess that the company's in.

IOW, we can negotiate some items within Section 1 relative to one another, as long as the end product is better, but if we trade all (or most) of Section 1 for W-2's, we're done.

Knowing when to say "no" is a lot more difficult than knowing when to say "yes".

I think what I bolded is what DALPA is going to try to do. I agree 100& about Scope for W2s, that is a losing proposition.

Scoop

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Carl... grow up.

You leave Delta now, and in 10 years you will realize it was the biggest mistake you ever made. Look around you. But you have to decide that for yourself.