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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1181232)

I do not even look at that site. What lies are being spewed about the 757 engine failure?

My guess is they blame ALPA. Probably some wild conspiracy about ALPA somehow forcing the birds to fly into the engine. :p

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Originally Posted by bigbusdriver (Post 1181236)

Pretty much the entire "news article". It's standard ALPA safety volnteer bashing at it's lowest form. They lie about the date that it happened; that no one said anything about it, there's a flight safety flyer and an NTSB report about it; and infer that there is an "attempt to cover up events".

Ahh. I have to admit that DAL does a good job of keeping pilots in the loop on the majority of issues. I read the Flight Safety Flyer et al all of the time. As far as my experience goes, I have never seen that sort of transparency before.

Not really sure what need there would be to cover up anything, but that is just me.

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1181240)

My guess is they blame ALPA. Probably some wild conspiracy about ALPA somehow forcing the birds to fly into the engine. :p

They did, didn't they?

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1181240)

My guess is they blame ALPA. Probably some wild conspiracy about ALPA somehow forcing the birds to fly into the engine. :p

I though that Birds had some sort of 12 step program to help them to resist the urge to fly in to engines at ALPA's request? :eek::D

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1181242)

They did, didn't they?

Indeed they did. It's all part of the master plan to reveal our incompetence as pilots so that DALPA can outsource all of our flying. :D

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1181243)

I though that Birds had some sort of 12 step program to help them to resist the urge to fly in to engines at ALPA's request? :eek::D

That's what's they want you to think. According to DPA. :D

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1181246)

That's what's they want you to think. According to DPA. :D

I have to admit, I do not get that. It seems like myopia to me.

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1181238)

Well, I'm not so I guess I will not be able to read it. When I was searching for their web site I did come across the Holiday Video though. Finally found the site, and did not see the article in question. I guess what you state explains it.

Histrionics

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Originally Posted by bigbusdriver (Post 1181263)

Histrionics

I read it, thanks. Not that I want to start the back and forth on DPA, but its a good diverson from the other stuff.

I can state that there are more than a few items in that article that are wrong.

As for 24J. Its fricken contractual. DAL has to pay for it just like they have to pay for our rates that are agreed to in there. Same as a BE seat on an ocean crossing; its a contractual benefit and agreement. There are plenty of things that DAL probably does not want to pay for, but the contract stipulates that they do.

They pay for the scheduling chair that gains hundreds of thousands of dollars a year for improper trip coverage. I am sure they hate that too, but the position is covered. Cripes.

It does not marginalize these guys. It saves about 4-5 million from our 10 or so million a year for the MEC operation for other items like PUB events, the SEMRA etc. I'd say its not a way to marginalize us.

Again, if there are transparency issues in DALPA, they are not because of the structure. People make those decisions, not the structure. Ugh.

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1181273)

I read it, thanks. Not that I want to start the back and forth on DPA, but its a good diversion from the other stuff.

Not my intent I just don't see the world through Carl's myopic lenses. Reps doing their best to not lie to my face while maintaining their NDA should be a good thing.

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1181273)

I can state that there are more than a few items in that article that are wrong.

They passed the line from 'wrong' to just flat out lying about the events.