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For all of the threat the DPA presents, I don't think the scope section that ALPA proposed helps them too much. Generally I am disappointed in the opener presented by ALPA in section one.

forgot to bid

03-13-2012 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1151359)

Kind of underwhelming...

kind of like the ATL MD-88 B.

That's why one should stay away from it. It kills your sex life. If you want to kill your sex life, go ATL MD-88 B.

THEBRICK

03-13-2012 07:11 PM

delta-pilots.org:)

Flamer

03-13-2012 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer (Post 1151378)

Unless something comes out about recapturing flying that has been farmed out since 911 this proposal is DOA for me. I don't even need to look at the rest.

At least if DALs pilot costs go up with a better contract, that will make it less financially advantageous for management to outsource/code share/JV our flying away.

forgot to bid

03-13-2012 07:13 PM

So, was Carl right? I'm confused. Is saying the obvious really publishing an opener?

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/image...ndme/MM2_L.jpg

:D

FTB
Resident Jack***

forgot to bid

03-13-2012 07:14 PM

btw, early me...

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/200.../000005042.jpg

she touched my butt.

hockeypilot44

03-13-2012 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 1151356)

i see nothing about fixing reserves getting less credit for same trip as line holders...

adding some scope protections but not near enough...

some good stuff and some ridiculous stuff, alot was left to be desired.....

It's not in there. Scope was my number 1 issue, this is my second (it's not even in there), and pay is my third issue. This opener is exactly what I expected. A huge disappointment. Carl was right. I'll summarize the opener.

Section 1 - improve
Section 2 - improve
Section 3 - improve
Section 4 - improve
Section 5 - improve
...
Section 23 - stay about the same, keep screwing the reserves.

Sad thing is I just provided about as much detail as ALPA did.

I truly believe ALPA needs to go. They are going to get this wrong. Anyone with common sense can see it.

buzzpat

03-13-2012 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1151388)

kind of like the ATL MD-88 B.

That's why one should stay away from it. It kills your sex life. If you want to kill your sex life, go ATL MD-88 B.

Don't kill your sex life. Don't bid the MD-88. Besides, all the really sexy guys are flying the -800.;)

Mem9guy

03-13-2012 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 1151356)

i see nothing about fixing reserves getting less credit for same trip as line holders...

adding some scope protections but not near enough...

some good stuff and some ridiculous stuff, alot was left to be desired.....

Super,
It is in there about paying reserves the same as lineholders, page 5 Section 12. Eliminate reserve look back for duty period average. This is what makes rotations worth less then for reserves.

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