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Sink r8 05-07-2012 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by Ball Breaker (Post 1183467)
If we are rushing into this because of some "FLEETING OPPORTUNITIES," let them fleet. I'm not impressed at all. I thought we had some leverage now. I'm not in any hurry to ratify anything that resembles this.

Exactly. Screw those opportunities. We're in pretty good spot. We'll tell them when we're tired of our contract.

"Let them fleet". That'll make for great slogan. Where you around for "a contract is a contract"? That was another great one-liner.

Check Essential 05-07-2012 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1183461)
I'm still not too clear on why the company came to us, to open early, and get this thing done quickly. All I've heard from my Rep. when I called him to ask is,

"Richard wants to pursue Other Opportunities..."

Ummm...Ok, but what's in it, for US?

The reps can't tell you even if they know. They signed confidentiality agreements.
The wisdom of that is somewhat questionable but that's the way DALPA wants it in this era of constructive engagement.

forgot to bid 05-07-2012 10:00 AM

Timbo, good post.

I have a problrm with deliberately catching contract-itis.

Elvis90 05-07-2012 10:05 AM

"Let them FLEET". Catchy. ;)

acl65pilot 05-07-2012 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by LivingTheDream (Post 1183350)
FWIW, I told my ATL rep that my four main items were: Scope, Pay, Sick leave, and Min calendar day for all, (reg & res). He told me, three days ago, he did not expect that we are getting a Min calendar day. I told him I needed all four items as a Min. Therefore, if true about no Min calendar day, a no vote for me.


Read the opener, It was not asked for. An Average Daily Credit is what was asked for. It still allows the flexibility to park ya for a long layo and fly you like crazy the remaining days.

More Bacon 05-07-2012 10:21 AM

Negotiating a contract to decrease the number of pilots (and advancement opportunities) while requiring us to work more? Those are concessions. Why are we conceding anything?

How can this be all we could negotiate?

If this thing gets passed, we will be referring to today as the "good ol' days."

"Let them fleet!"

acl65pilot 05-07-2012 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by More Bacon (Post 1183483)
Negotiating a contract to decrease the number of pilots (and advancement opportunities) while requiring us to work more? Those are concessions. Why are we conceding anything?

How can this be all we could negotiate?

If this thing gets passed, we will be referring to today as the "good ol' days."

"Let them fleet!"


Hey, pilots like Carl and DAL88 have been screaming for SWA's CBA in its entirety. Well we apparently are getting the work rule efficiencies, so they may get part of what they are asking for.

More Bacon 05-07-2012 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1183485)
Hey, pilots like Carl and DAL88 have been screaming for SWA's CBA in its entirety. Well we apparently are getting the work rule efficiencies, so they may get part of what they are asking for.

do you honestly think DALPA will negotiate for SWA payrates?

N9373M 05-07-2012 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1183477)
"Let them FLEET". Catchy. ;)

http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/pub...jazDgxvjJ2fuiQ

tsquare 05-07-2012 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1183428)
Right now I am focused on staying here. I am going to vote no. Are you jealous that a Southwest captain makes more than you to fly a plane that carries half the passengers? I am someone who wants to make Delta industry-leading and you want me gone. I don't get it. Do you have low self-esteem or something?

SWA's current position in the industry is going to go away. They are in the midst of a poorly thought out merger, and it is going to take some time for that to play out. DAL is years ahead of them, and we will see the fruits of that labor soon enough. Am I jealous of a SWA captain? no. not at all. I have no desire to do what they do and the way they do it. I think it is interesting that you talk about being jealous of someone that might make more money than you and in the same breath ask if I have low self esteem..

And if you are going to keep publicly badmouthing Delta, I couldn't care less if you stay here. As a matter of fact, I would prefer you go somewhere you would rather be.

And lastly, I couldn't care less how you are going to vote. But it is obvious that you are going to to little if any research because you have already made up your mind. That is pathetic because it shows that you are a member of the American Idol generation. ready fire aim. You have your push button soundbite, and the entire package is made up based on that. Sad. I would prefer intelligent voters, and you obviously are not one.


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