Love getting NYC FA crews on my flights...better chances of what you had, and thus happier passengers who enjoy their Delta experience more than they otherwise would.

Congrats! Look forward to flying with you again.

Sweet!!! Bid avoid......just kiddin'. I think we have some cold beer in our future again. I've got the first round.

Average Retirement Age
 

With the Age 60 rule the average retirement age was around 57.5. There are a number of guys who go out on disability (various medical problems that won't allow them to pass a Class 1). We can expect the same thing to be true of the Age 65 rule - the average age of retirees will be around 62 - there will be quite a few guys that try to fly to 65 that won't make.

Call the planners up they will decide n

Dude really?

All of these guys that get an extra five years(maybe more) in the left seat need it. They had a pension and no real retirement savings vehicle here at DAL before it was terminated. Many assumed they had a pension and when it was terminated they needed at least another then years to get anywhere close to enough money to retire. They hate being here too,but are happy they get their five years in a left seat while you get your in the right. It is what it is. Stop this junior v senior bs.

42% pay cut

Loss of pension

Loss of work rules

Loss of vacation

Loss of sick time

Working at least 30 more block hrs a year

Need I go on? They are not staying here to screw you or I, they are here to avoid the Walmart greeters job.

When you are there age you too will be doing everything in your power to work until retirement age too. So will I. It is a math game and no more. We would all retire tomorrow if we could.

I agree, retirement planning is not an individual's responsibility. When my social security check doesnt show up 30 years from now ill be asking your grand kids to feed me instead because "i was counting on that".

It's possible i guess that the "retire 2.5 years early" stays the same, but imho if youre healthy enough to make it to 60 you're probably healthy enough to make it to 65. The guys I see over 60 are in shape. Most people I know who have medical issues and such have it in their late 50s.

Btw don't get me wrong, if the rule is 65, have at it. It's the rule. but if we're going to be consistent, why not have made it retroactive? As in forced carriers to take back their over 60 but under 65 at their previous seniority? And why not age 67 if it is truly a financial issue?

And if an FAA medical is good enough, why does alpa fight age 60+ related age testing?

I'm with ya...we need a safety net since we're incapable of taking care of ourselves.