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Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 1150945)
I have a friend who has actually sat in a 787. She is not an aviation person. She just got a tour of the jet. Not even a flight.
All she could talk about was the windows. She said the windows are going to be a game changer. People will fly 787s just to look out the window. FWIW. It kind of pains me to see Delta pass on the 787 for the next 8 years. Would be nice to be known for cutting edge aircraft. I do know Richard is skittish on new airplanes and there are some good reasons for that. I just hope we don't lose an opportunity to rope more pax by branding ourselves as the airline with old planes not to mention the airline burning the most liquid gold. |
Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 1150945)
People will fly 787s just to look out the window.
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1150860)
I really like how efficiently the 737-800 could carry a load a long ways. The LCD PFD and ND were fantasic as well.
HOW BOUT THEM APPLES?? |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1150957)
I've been thinking, I'm kind of excited about the 739. It's a worthy replacement of the 757 and MD88.
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 1150936)
Wow. Jeffrey sure does love the 787. Talking like its gonna be the key to United's future.
The 787 is at best a niche airframe for long thin routes beyond the range of the 7ER. For everything else it has almost the same cabin footprint of the 7ER but weighs 40k more. On routes the 7ER can service there is no economic benefit going with a 787 just the extra capital cost associated with a new airframe. The fuel savings of the engines and airframe are soaked up by the extra weight. As much as it pains me Delta made the right call to refurbish the 7ER cabin and wait for Boeing to figure out how to really work the advantages of carbon fiber in later versions of the jet... Cheers George |
Originally Posted by georgetg
(Post 1150993)
It just shows you how little analysts really know...
The 787 is at best a niche airframe for long thin routes beyond the range of the 7ER. For everything else it has almost the same cabin footprint of the 7ER but weighs 40k more. On routes the 7ER can service there is no economic benefit going with a 787 just the extra capital cost associated with a new airframe. The fuel savings of the engines and airframe are soaked up by the extra weight. As much as it pains me Delta made the right call to refurbish the 7ER cabin and wait for Boeing to figure out how to really work the advantages of carbon fiber in later versions of the jet... Cheers George |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 1150648)
And Emirates plans three more US cities this year.
And USAir registered a few domain names for a merger with AMR....... Cheers George |
I think it's safe to say ACL and his dancing dots are baaack! ;-)
Cheers George |
Originally Posted by georgetg
(Post 1150993)
It just shows you how little analysts really know...
The 787 is at best a niche airframe for long thin routes beyond the range of the 7ER. For everything else it has almost the same cabin footprint of the 7ER but weighs 40k more. On routes the 7ER can service there is no economic benefit going with a 787 just the extra capital cost associated with a new airframe. The fuel savings of the engines and airframe are soaked up by the extra weight. As much as it pains me Delta made the right call to refurbish the 7ER cabin and wait for Boeing to figure out how to really work the advantages of carbon fiber in later versions of the jet... Cheers George |
Originally Posted by georgetg
(Post 1150997)
I think it's safe to say ACL and his dancing dots are baaack! ;-)
Cheers George I listen to all of the investor calls, and what so and so says at this LCA meeting or that meeting etc, and there are some variances between delivery dates and and other statements wrt to the 787. |
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