Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1128654)

More to the point actually is that DALPA tells us that our contract provides protections which exceed the FTDT requirements. This may be true, but this is today. In 2 years when FTDT goes into effect, I would expect a full on assault from the company to reduce the contractual requirements to be more in line with FTDT.

Additionally, I would think that the company in C2012, would want to reduce the Captain headcount on flts in excess of 12 hrs. If you think you are stagnant today...

Just keep your eyes open.

Originally Posted by SFWB (Post 1128726)

anyone commute out of BNA or CHA to atl? I'm thinking about choosing to commute since my base ain't here beyond April. I like Tennessee income tax, gun and homeschool laws. 10 flights a day on Delta in between ATL and BNA/CHA. tell me why I ought to pay Georgia income tax and put up with the traffic from Newnan. Have a great day.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1128685)

Can't speak for the RD's, but us fNWA guys mostly are hedging our bets in case our pensions are routed in a follow-on bankruptcy. Since I have 4 years left (til age 60), I want to try and stay 4 more years. I'd love to take a buyout now and just focus on my business, but if the pension gets wrecked after I jump out early, I'd sure wish I had the opportunity to work until 65 to try and make up for the loss of my retirement plan. I think most of us are thinking the same thing and planning on staying til 60.

Last time however, we had a number of pre age 60 guys take the buyout. The foreign airlines are offering some unbeatable wages for the 744 and the 777. It's getting very tempting.

Carl

Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1128749)

The PWA is more stringent than the current FAR's. Those protections survived bankruptcy (when management tried to gut them in 1113C, just like AMR is now). The new FTDT rules are more lenient in certain areas than the PWA, and substantially tighter in others. We pocket the tighter areas because it's the law. The more lenient ones management has to negotiate to include in the book. That's leverage, not a Chicken Little moment.

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1128151)

I don't think you guys are interpreting it correctly...at least the way it seems to be working in LA. The buckets only come into play when the seniority system has been run based on days available. If a senior guy (me) has three days available and there's a three day trip, guess who gets it? Me. If a junior guy flies trip, incurs some raw, but has less days available or its not a match for the days required, he doesn't get it. The senior guy does and then the seniority system comes into play again with the next bucket.

And, as discussed before, the buckets will be adjusted by category. It is too early from my viewpoint to color an entire process based on what is now the second month of a new initiative.

Also, as a very junior line holder (occasionally) in LA, I can assure you that there is a significant difference between junior and senior QOLs. It seems commensurate with the difference between senior and junior on reserve.

Originally Posted by Brocc15 (Post 1128563)

I got the opposite impression. If you go down to where the graph is, it says pilot block hours for March are down 5.4% year over year, but total number of pilots is only down 1.2%. So we are more overstaffed than we were a year ago :(

Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1128786)

Despite the talk about hiring this year I'm just not seeing it. Hope I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1128674)

I agree with the ULH rules. Now that they are stating three B's and one A, I expect DAL to push for what the rest of the industry is doing. Thing is they stated they were doing it for safety, so that might be an interesting one to get around. Like you said, watch their feet. That is a ton of high paying seats.

Originally Posted by chuck416 (Post 1128708)

Hi Cubdrick,
I could never figure why anyone WOULD bid a yellow slip flying offer. What angle am I missing? What (if any) advantage is there to anyone--other than DAL--for even volunteering for a Y/S trip?
Regards
Chuck