Gunfighter

Dusted off, edited and submitted... Also lining up financing for a small business loan.

The more options we create for ourselves individually outside of Delta, the stronger we are as a group at the negotiating table.

JungleBus

Whoa. Un-farking-believable. Too bad I was offline most of today so I didn't see this response sooner. It completely proves my point - that ALPA has accepted post-bankruptcy contracts as "the new normal" and thinks any marginal pay raises above those levels are some huge victory to celebrate. 18% over bankruptcy rates and you're ready to crow about it!? Subtract the 11% inflation since 2008 and it's even more pathetic. And really, by selecting 2008 as your "random" start date, 18% was the very best you could come up with. The terrible performance would be more palatable if ALPA showed any sign of distress over it. Instead they just send your ilk to defend it. Pathetic.

acl65pilot

You getting that from the company?

80ktsClamp

It very likely came from a very dark, stinky, and dangerous place located in his hindquarters from where he usually speaks.

newKnow

As bad as that sounds, I hope that's where that came from.

Columbia

You are really surprised?

crewdawg52

Please show where there is a 12 yr 737A in the system.

80ktsClamp

Year 12 is where our longevity pay maxes out. Currently, every captain at DL is on year 12 pay.

acl65pilot

Yes I am. I also know to not get wrapped around the axle on what he posts.

Fwiw 30% in three years is about 10% today without back pay for time valuation purposes. Fact, that's great but I expect a lot more than 10%. That sort of stuff makes the decision easy.

This deal must pattern above SWA. That said I can see the company giving some Jul/Aug then more In Jan to offset some of it in to next year. Keeps this years numbers near street estimates. That is why I expect that, but numbers being posted at this point in time should be discarded. Those numbers from the survey are state secrets that the reps see thrm but cannot even take out of the room.

If sailing got them, then someone is leaking info and I find that possibility suspect from the entire MEC. This group is good at keeping DNA stuff quiet. They don't leak and that is a good thing.

Just wait for the TA. It will be out within the next few weeks for all to evaluate or it will fail and go back to the company. The company has invested too much time to walk away for even 200 -300 million a year (10% day one)--my opinion based on the possibilities I see happening next.

Carl Spackler

Really? You think they came from Newark?

Carl