Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-15-2012, 08:06 AM
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Disregard......
05-15-2012, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Pro Fessional
Well, that's a total of about 30% (actually 29.36%) compounded one year and seven months from now.
... Or we could walk away and still be in Section 6 negotiations then with no end in sight. The absurdity of saying "anything less than 30% is a NO vote" without any regard for the rest of the TA and considering the time value of money amazes me. To those of you making statements like that - have you considered how big of a raise it will take three or four years from now at the conclusion of prolonged Section 6 negotiations to make up for 3 or 4 years of no raises in the meantime?
Me? I will evaluate any TA in its whole. I have not developed any "lines in the sand." I would love to get back to C2K rates, especially adjusted for inflation, but I will be pragmatic when I evaluate any TA. We should all do the same.
... Or we could walk away and still be in Section 6 negotiations then with no end in sight. The absurdity of saying "anything less than 30% is a NO vote" without any regard for the rest of the TA and considering the time value of money amazes me. To those of you making statements like that - have you considered how big of a raise it will take three or four years from now at the conclusion of prolonged Section 6 negotiations to make up for 3 or 4 years of no raises in the meantime?
Me? I will evaluate any TA in its whole. I have not developed any "lines in the sand." I would love to get back to C2K rates, especially adjusted for inflation, but I will be pragmatic when I evaluate any TA. We should all do the same.
05-15-2012, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
The Thunderbirds also do a "Too Low Show" which is very impressive.
But you're going to be in trouble!
05-15-2012, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 52Lobstah
Dont anybody get peeved at me. It's what I heard. Verify my post and blast me when I am wrong. I am just here drinking beers and shooting deers (not this time of year) that's how I roll.
I will tell you that 22% increase in hourly rate by 2013 will pass muster (58% approval) depending on the rest of the deal.
I will tell you that 22% increase in hourly rate by 2013 will pass muster (58% approval) depending on the rest of the deal.
05-15-2012, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Avgwhitemale
"But 717s announcement around the same time as a TA would make sense."
I just hope the 717 deal doesn't involve bringing in SWA/AT pilots with the jets. I have a SWA dude in my reserve unit. In a typical cavalier attitude he told me we were saving them by taking their 717s as well as the angry AT guys.
I just hope the 717 deal doesn't involve bringing in SWA/AT pilots with the jets. I have a SWA dude in my reserve unit. In a typical cavalier attitude he told me we were saving them by taking their 717s as well as the angry AT guys.
05-15-2012, 08:16 AM
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I think they closed all of the fun backdoor stuff.
Backdoor stuff to see your schedule before the little blue X pops up.
Backdoor stuff to see your schedule before the little blue X pops up.
05-15-2012, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Don't you mean cutting off your nose to spider face?
I mean it's just a pet peeve of mine. Kind of like when people say tit-for-tat. That makes no sense, it's tit-for-tit.
I mean it's just a pet peeve of mine. Kind of like when people say tit-for-tat. That makes no sense, it's tit-for-tit.
05-15-2012, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Off subject question about the Blue Angels and I can't seem to find this on google.
Recently I saw them practice but it was with ceilings restricting their vertical stuff. What I noticed was there were sizable periods, especially relative to the quick stuff at the beginning and the interim solo acts, when nothing went on and they were not in sight. They all disappeared. Now that could be a practice thing but I kind of remember seeing this at an air show once too.
So I was wondering, during those parts of their performance where they'd done a vertical maneuver do they just disappear for the allotted time? Or do they fill in the vertical parts with another maneuver?
Recently I saw them practice but it was with ceilings restricting their vertical stuff. What I noticed was there were sizable periods, especially relative to the quick stuff at the beginning and the interim solo acts, when nothing went on and they were not in sight. They all disappeared. Now that could be a practice thing but I kind of remember seeing this at an air show once too.
So I was wondering, during those parts of their performance where they'd done a vertical maneuver do they just disappear for the allotted time? Or do they fill in the vertical parts with another maneuver?
05-15-2012, 08:18 AM
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I had the same thought but that doesn't make sense. The AT/SWA guys have a job. How about the furloughed UAL guys? They are ALPA brothers. I would rather see those folks get an interview. The low lying fruit on the tree is gone. DAL has a completely different hiring process. Our cool aid tastes different too.
05-15-2012, 08:19 AM
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BTW....Rwy 10 in ATL is a perfect fit for the SWA "model"!!!
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