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Old 05-15-2012, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1 View Post
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I'd like to buy you a beer. A few days ago, Alfa asked if we wanted to have a negotiation in the "adult" world. I said yes.

There is a master plan behind the curtain that only a few NDA signers have been briefed on. This is a time of great leverage. If this TA doesn't make us whole, then there is room to make it better.
... and just what is that leverage? Outsourcing is only worth so much.
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Old 05-15-2012, 09:39 AM
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... and just what is that leverage? Outsourcing is only worth so much.
I agree that small jet outsourcing has a definable top end limit. There is waaaay more to this little exercise than that.
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Old 05-15-2012, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Ball Breaker View Post
Yeap.

- Still below SWA rates
- More 76 seaters
But the spin will be: If you add the "B-fund", better layo hotels, crew-meals and NRT Laundry; then your rates are higher than SWA

My opinion is, SWA can keep those 717s. They should no way be involved in our TA. They are a low paying, hard working (3-7 legs a day) machine. And who knows, the minute the next "force-majeure" event occurs-->we will cave in again.

Bring on the HEAVIES, Im all for that. Take back all DAL flying, Im all for that too.

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Old 05-15-2012, 09:55 AM
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If there is no red stapler in this TA, I vote no!
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Old 05-15-2012, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone View Post
But the spin will be: If you add the "B-fund", better layo hotels, crew-meals and NRT Laundry; then your rates are higher than SWA

My opinion is, SWA can keep those 717s. They should no way be involved in our TA. They are a low paying, hard working (3-7 legs a day) machine. And who knows, the minute the next "force-majeure" event occurs-->we will cave in again.

Bring on the HEAVIES, Im all for that. Take back all DAL flying, Im all for that too.

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Ive got news for ya we are lower paying and fly 4-5 leg days on the mad dog now.
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Old 05-15-2012, 10:39 AM
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Bloomberg News Wire:

Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) reached a tentative agreement on a new contract with its pilots union seven months before the existing accord comes up for amendment, in an industry where negotiations often drag on for years.

Leaders of the Air Line Pilots Association’s Delta chapter and its panel that negotiated the contract are meeting in Atlanta today to discuss the terms, Tim O’Malley, chairman of the union’s executive committee, told members in a letter today.

“The negotiating committee and its expanded team have accomplished a great deal of work in the last two months, a process that normally takes years,” O’Malley wrote.

The agreement must be approved by the union’s executive committee and then by a majority of the 10,850 rank-and-file pilots before it takes effect. Terms of the accord, such as whether it includes pay raises or a change to the so-called scope clause that determines what size planes regional partners can fly, can’t be disclosed yet, Kelly Regus, a union spokeswoman, said in an e-mail.

“Reaching a tentative agreement with the Air Line Pilots Association has been a high priority for Delta since negotiations began in March,” Gina Laughlin, a spokeswoman for the Atlanta-based company, said in an e-mail. “We are pleased to have reached this agreement.”

Delta won’t comment on details until the contract is final, she said.
Competitors’ Talks

The time required to reach the accord at Delta, the world’s second-largest airline, is in contrast to what has occurred at the carrier’s U.S. rivals.

United Continental Holdings Inc. (UAL), the world’s largest carrier, has been trying to negotiate a joint contract with the United and Continental pilots since the airlines merged in October 2010.

AMR Corp. (AAMRQ)’s American Airlines, which is operating under bankruptcy protection, hasn’t been able to reach a contract with its pilots after more than five years of negotiating. US Airways Group Inc. (LCC) has failed to get a combined agreement for US Airways and America West pilots since the carriers merged in 2005.
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Old 05-15-2012, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
Bloomberg News Wire:
From here forward I want to be know as Professor Rank and File Delta Pilot
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Old 05-15-2012, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat View Post
There's a blurb about the TA now on DeltaNet.

But, where are the June B bids?!!!!!!
Go in the back way. Click on the (aircraft) A. Then go up to the header and change A to B.

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Old 05-15-2012, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by whatsitdoinnow View Post
Ive got news for ya we are lower paying and fly 4-5 leg days on the mad dog now.
Really? We have Mad-dogs at Delta?

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Old 05-15-2012, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Professor View Post
From here forward I want to be know as Professor Rank and File Delta Pilot
A contract detail was leaked on the ALPA Board that was too good not to post:

  • No more flying during holidays, nights and weekends. Flying moved to Monday through Thursday. Pilots will not be able to bid Thursdays off.

Got my vote with that one.
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