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Old 08-24-2013 | 04:25 PM
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Sorry man, too good to pass up

Originally Posted by RayFFoster
They want to know if your an honest person.

Some of the posts here lead me to believe there are those who wouldn't pass the test.

Just sayin'.
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Old 08-24-2013 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jethikoki
What test? I would be happy to take the same test that the Western Airlines and Northwest Airline pilots took for their continued employment at DAL. Oh yeah that was a merger. Isn't it funny when a major wants to buy another major but can't so they have a merger and the seniority list are merged to one. I just wonder what ALPA's response would be if Western and NWA pilots would be required to take a test and interviewed to have continued employment at DAL. We already know what happens when a major buys a regional.
You cant compare NWA/WAL with Pinnacle. The pilots at NWA/WAL proved their worth and got hired by the MAJORS. They made it to the Big Show. Traditionally, the Pinnacle pilots and regional pilots are there to build time and work their way up to the Majors. Some Regional Pilots are Rejects but most are great guys paying their dues to climb out and work for the mainline Major. The industry has not been favorable to these pilots but nonetheless we are a society that defines and identifies with classes. NWA and Western are Major LEAUGE, thus better treatment. Pinnacle and other Regionals are Minor League/the farm league, thus the treatment we see.

Again, your theory or sarcasm on the previous post is true. Its best that you take your own ideology and live with it. There is no use for you to compare or get upset with the treatment of Regional Pilots to that of Major Pilots. Regional Air Line Pilots will always have to prove their worth and work their way up. This is the hard and cold truth. It sucks,but that is the way it is. Sorry/

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Old 08-24-2013 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RayFFoster
OK. At a meeting Thursday. Flight Operations management stated that 143 furloughed pilots have definitely accepted recall. Only 8 have declined. Status of the other 50 or so is unknown. Should fill Delta's needs for at least 6 months starting in November.
A little friendly advise. At an interview, an airline isn't primarily concerned with your pilot resume. If you were not considered qualified, you would never have been invited for an interview at all. Little more than verification that your not lying will be done. They want to know what kind of person you are and how well you can work with others. They want to know if your an honest person.

Some of the posts here lead me to believe there are those who wouldn't pass the test.

Just sayin'.
You are correct. A known fact is that the entitled attitudes of the incoming "flow" will be tested and observed. The new team has a very defined and set algorithm to weed out these "cocky" folks.

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Old 08-24-2013 | 04:44 PM
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"Pretty tough and competitive process at NWA. If you like to know more about the NWA process, ask someone. Im sure and willing to bet it was a lit bit more than you think So knowing that, NWA dudes deserve their rights at Delta." I am sure the Western pilots will say the same and yes you do deserve your rights at DAL. But I am trying to find the test that the NWA and Western pilots took for DAL? Why does NWA and Western rights have to be better then a regional pilots in the same association? Not trying to go the Com Air route but a flow would suffice. If DAL had the ability to buy NWA what would happen if DAL required all NWA pilots to be interviewed and tested again before being allowed continued employment?
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Old 08-24-2013 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jethikoki
"Pretty tough and competitive process at NWA. If you like to know more about the NWA process, ask someone. Im sure and willing to bet it was a lit bit more than you think So knowing that, NWA dudes deserve their rights at Delta." I am sure the Western pilots will say the same and yes you do deserve your rights at DAL. But I am trying to find the test that the NWA and Western pilots took for DAL? Why does NWA and Western rights have to be better then a regional pilots in the same association? Not trying to go the Com Air route but a flow would suffice. If DAL had the ability to buy NWA what would happen if DAL required all NWA pilots to be interviewed and tested again before being allowed continued employment?
Besides the obvious already stated, they wouldn't have anyone to operate all their new airplanes? (Not saying they would fail) 76ers can be outsourced and they arn't worried about finding people to fly them. They can't just take on a couple hundred airplanes they can't outsource and not have anyone fly them... What would be the purpose of buying them then?
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Old 08-24-2013 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
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No problem and cant say I can because haven't taken it yet. I know its a difficult process. I know guys that have gone before me and didn't get hired that I thought were great pilots so one can only try.
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Old 08-24-2013 | 04:54 PM
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Crazy how airline management has perfected the new "B scale". No unity between two groups of pilots who both fly Delta Jets.
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Old 08-24-2013 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jethikoki
"Pretty tough and competitive process at NWA. If you like to know more about the NWA process, ask someone. Im sure and willing to bet it was a lit bit more than you think So knowing that, NWA dudes deserve their rights at Delta." I am sure the Western pilots will say the same and yes you do deserve your rights at DAL. But I am trying to find the test that the NWA and Western pilots took for DAL? Why does NWA and Western rights have to be better then a regional pilots in the same association? Not trying to go the Com Air route but a flow would suffice. If DAL had the ability to buy NWA what would happen if DAL required all NWA pilots to be interviewed and tested again before being allowed continued employment?
Not to argue with you and I know it is a sore subject. You could also be "messing with me" but Ill say it again. NWA/WAL pilots are better than their regional counterparts. THey worked up the chain and proved their worth to the MAJOR LEAUGE. They got picked up. The Regional guys are still trying to get a chance to make it. The Regional pilots still need to prove their worth.

I was a Regional Pilot (commuter back then), I know what you are saying. My advice to you is not to worry about why or how other groups make it without bias. I would put my head high up, choose the place you want to go and be diligent, dont give up and kick A$$ on the tests you are given. If your questions are real then you really want to start reflecting and changing. You do not want your envious and challenging attitude to show in a interview.

Otherwise, good luck and remember: There will always be someone better looking and richer than you. You have to learn how to deal with your own circumstances without jealousy.

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Old 08-24-2013 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mynameisjim
Crazy how airline management has perfected the new "B scale". No unity between two groups of pilots who both fly Delta Jets.
Kind of like Baseball THere will never be unity because Mainline Pilots lost their jobs to RJs. And now RJ Pilots are losing their jobs because the Mainline flying is being shifted back to Mainline.

Back in the day, it worked. Why? Because we had Mainline and Commuter jobs. The RJ introduced its head and made the commuter guy think he was more than that. Thats where Management saw the opportunity to implement this nasty inbred disconnect.

The RJ should have never been slated to be a commuter airliner. It should have been placed on Mainline's fleet count flown by mainline pilots. I blame this on ALPA.

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Old 08-24-2013 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
Not to argue with you and I know it is a sore subject. You could also be "messing with me" but Ill say it again. NWA/WAL pilots are better than their regional counterparts. THey worked up the chain and proved their worth to the MAJOR LEAUGE. They got picked up. The Regional guys are still trying to get a chance to make it. The Regional pilots still need to prove their worth.

I was a Regional Pilot (commuter back then), I know what you are saying. My advice to you is not to worry about why or how other groups make it without bias. I would put my head high up, choose the place you want to go and be diligent, dont give up and kick A$$ on the tests you are given. If your questions are real then you really want to start reflecting and changing. You do not want your envious and challenging attitude to show in a interview.

Otherwise, good luck and remember: There will always be someone better looking and richer than you. You have to learn how to deal with your own circumstances without jealousy.
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Not messing with you and I do respect your and others opinions! Also, I am not speaking for anyone but myself alone and am not meaning to trivialize anyone's efforts who gained employment at a major. Just trying to point out some inequities of the process at least as it seems to me. I'm to old to be jealous and have seen far to many that are richer and probably better too. Cheers
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