I can attest to that. I received a "fix it" email nearly a month ago. I've combed, tweaked and adjusted my application from top to bottom but have yet to hear back. I'm starting to wonder if it might be because I have less than 200 hours of flight time in the previous 12 months (though I'll have 200 soon). Oh well, here's to hoping for a future invite!

 

I had 125 in the last 12 months and I got an interview, so don't sweat that.

 

You're fine. 100 in 12 months is what you need.

 

Well, I don't know if that makes me feel better or worse.

 

Anyone get the call without the full up ATP? I only know 1 that had just the written.

 

That makes me want to vomit. Some dude applying as an after-thought...then getting hired.

 

FAA Requirements
•FAA commercial fixed-wing pilot license with an instrument rating.
•Current FAA First Class Medical Certificate.
•Meets ALL minimum FAA ATP requirements including successful completion of the ATP written exam.

Delta doesn't require an ATP license as long as you have the Comm/Inst and ATP mins with the written complete.

 

The DL requirement (which will likely change) is there to allow the occasional military transition pilot getting out to get a pencil whipped Commercial ticket and get hired. The hours used to be 1200 (UAL was 300!) I think its an out dated exemption as its not even comically competitive unless you're a Thunderbird Shuttle pilot or a very, very, very well connected and special internal candidate.

ATP written is a min that just doesn't apply to pilots in the real world anymore.

 

Yes, at least it is a published minimum and those being hired this way are still complying. Unlike those select few specials coming in without a college degree.

 

I still haven't heard any confirmed cases of non degree pilots, other than a handful of inherited flows but that's a separate issue.

FWIW, I think the only advantage to requiring a degree is it raises the barrier to entry and reduces the supply. No one becomes a better pilot by partying hardy in the quad and pretending to be worldly reading Chaucer and taking a trig exam hungover. I'll take a self made hard worker with real world experience any day over an under educated, over schooled 26 year old "child" still on mommy and daddy's insurance that doesn't know a thing about the real world. Paying 6 figures for a reading list of free material is a major judgement fail and indictment of character IMHO. That said, I'm in favor of keeping the requirement because it reduces the supply.

But we pilots don't own that element. Management will change it at their leisure and I predict they will.

That said, I despise the concept of a vault letter regardless of what it contains.