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#3261
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,902
I still haven't heard any confirmed cases of non degree pilots, other than a handful of inherited flows but that's a separate issue.
FWIW, I think the only advantage to requiring a degree is it raises the barrier to entry and reduces the supply. No one becomes a better pilot by partying hardy in the quad and pretending to be worldly reading Chaucer and taking a trig exam hungover. I'll take a self made hard worker with real world experience any day over an under educated, over schooled 26 year old "child" still on mommy and daddy's insurance that doesn't know a thing about the real world. Paying 6 figures for a reading list of free material is a major judgement fail and indictment of character IMHO. That said, I'm in favor of keeping the requirement because it reduces the supply.
But we pilots don't own that element. Management will change it at their leisure and I predict they will.
That said, I despise the concept of a vault letter regardless of what it contains.
FWIW, I think the only advantage to requiring a degree is it raises the barrier to entry and reduces the supply. No one becomes a better pilot by partying hardy in the quad and pretending to be worldly reading Chaucer and taking a trig exam hungover. I'll take a self made hard worker with real world experience any day over an under educated, over schooled 26 year old "child" still on mommy and daddy's insurance that doesn't know a thing about the real world. Paying 6 figures for a reading list of free material is a major judgement fail and indictment of character IMHO. That said, I'm in favor of keeping the requirement because it reduces the supply.
But we pilots don't own that element. Management will change it at their leisure and I predict they will.
That said, I despise the concept of a vault letter regardless of what it contains.
#3262
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,524
My only concerns with college WRT what its become lately are keeping up the supply pressure on that side, while hopefuly beginning a trend to ween ourselves collectively off the cost side for our kids. Not being able to even theoretically walk away is a major blow to your negotiating leverage. As long as everyone has 3.5 kids sucking up 6 figures each of their income for worthless zero ROI degrees (most, not all) we are collectively weakened and predisposed to vote yes for almost anything to keep the income flowing.
#3263
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Joined APC: Aug 2008
Posts: 168
If a delta pilot wanted to recommend some one, who and how should they send in the recommendation? I know they can attach a recommendation to the airline apps but can they send some directly to the recruiting department to give the app at least a look? Look on DL net and couldn't find much.
Anything would be helpful.
Anything would be helpful.
#3264
If a delta pilot wanted to recommend some one, who and how should they send in the recommendation? I know they can attach a recommendation to the airline apps but can they send some directly to the recruiting department to give the app at least a look? Look on DL net and couldn't find much.
Anything would be helpful.
Anything would be helpful.
Go to DeltaNet
--->Click on the "Admin" Tab, (Three tabs below "Crew Resources & Scheduling" Tab)
--->Click on the "Pilot Selection" Tab, (Upper right-hand column)
--->Click on "Capt. Steve Dickson All Pilot Memo/FAQ's" link. (Middle of page, near the bottom.)
--->In this "All Pilot Memo," refer to FAQ #10.
Good luck to both you and the candidate you're recommending. I recommended a candidate through this process, and received a confirmation email from pilot recruitment, saying they had "received the recommendation."
V/R,
GJ
Last edited by Elliot; 02-17-2014 at 04:35 PM.
#3265
Can't abide NAI
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
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#3267
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Joined APC: Aug 2008
Posts: 168
I would post the email, but not sure if it's company proprietary information, so will offer detailed instruction on how to find it.
Go to DeltaNet
--->Click on the "Admin" Tab, (Three tabs below "Crew Resources & Scheduling" Tab)
--->Click on the "Pilot Selection" Tab, (Upper right-hand column)
--->Click on "Capt. Steve Dickson All Pilot Memo/FAQ's" link. (Middle of page, near the bottom.)
--->In this "All Pilot Memo," refer to FAQ #10.
Good luck to both you and the candidate you're recommending. I recommended a candidate through this process, and received a confirmation email from pilot recruitment, saying they had "received the recommendation."
V/R,
GJ
Go to DeltaNet
--->Click on the "Admin" Tab, (Three tabs below "Crew Resources & Scheduling" Tab)
--->Click on the "Pilot Selection" Tab, (Upper right-hand column)
--->Click on "Capt. Steve Dickson All Pilot Memo/FAQ's" link. (Middle of page, near the bottom.)
--->In this "All Pilot Memo," refer to FAQ #10.
Good luck to both you and the candidate you're recommending. I recommended a candidate through this process, and received a confirmation email from pilot recruitment, saying they had "received the recommendation."
V/R,
GJ
#3268
Runs with scissors
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Posts: 7,728
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#3269
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: DAL Widebody
Posts: 104
At some point I concluded the college degree was more about learning personal reponsibility...dotting/crossing life's I's and T's...learning to work within a system...getting to class (on time), completing homework, finding out how/where to get stuff (parking passes, ID), how to not get stuff (parking tickets, bad grades), to manage a social life without failing a class, building relationships (see previous), and completing something you started even if there seemed no apparent reason for doing so...sort of a CRM for life.
#3270
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,524
At some point I concluded the college degree was more about learning personal reponsibility...dotting/crossing life's I's and T's...learning to work within a system...getting to class (on time), completing homework, finding out how/where to get stuff (parking passes, ID), how to not get stuff (parking tickets, bad grades), to manage a social life without failing a class, building relationships (see previous), and completing something you started even if there seemed no apparent reason for doing so...sort of a CRM for life.
Spending 6 figures (soaking your parents or acting like its a government entitlement, either way) on a reading list that's available for free at any library/internet so you can take a break from reality, extend your childhood while pretending to be an adult while acting like a kid still on mommy's insurance til you're 26 is rock solid proof that you don't know jack about life CRM unless you're working your way through school and getting a degree that actually has a real ROI attatched to it (actual ROI too, not the fake "you make a million dollars more just because of college!") propaganda.
That said, I hope the requirement stands because it reduces the supply of competitive applicants. Which is exactly why it will be waived by management the instant we feel any degree of a pilot shortage at the major/legacy level.
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