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Old 06-27-2014, 11:25 AM
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And the same (850) for next year!!

Now can we get back to the thread creep? I'm out of the loop, what large RFP did CPZ (Hulas) win w/ American?
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Old 06-27-2014, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy View Post
I'd say way over 600. 100/mo for July and Aug and I heard 75ish/month for the rest of the year. I'd say 850ish for the year.
You are correct. But the previous poster's disappointed view of not hearing any good news about the increased hiring at Delta confused me

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Old 06-27-2014, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone View Post
We have increased and accelerated hiring. From 300/year to over 600. How much more would you like? Any more than that and it would be very irresponsible. FWIW.

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You misunderstand the reason for my post, I'm not complaining about the rate of hiring, I'm very pleased to see it really picking up! This thread used to be full of information about folks getting emails for interviews with their qualifications so you could get an ideas about how you compared to who was getting the call. Now, its turning into just another regional gripe fest like so many others.
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Old 06-27-2014, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone View Post
You are correct. But the previous poster's disappointed view of not hearing any good news about the increased hiring at Delta confused me

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I think he was disappointed he wasn't getting called, but I think it's a little early in the hiring spree to get all disappointed. There's always the EtD though
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Old 06-27-2014, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxPowerSet View Post
While I love a good DCI/UAX/AE speculation thread as much as the next guy, can't we just start another thread about it? For a while, this thread actually had me hopeful that Delta interviewing and hiring was accelerating. Hell, I even got a "fix it" email myself a few weeks back (missing high school info) and started to get really optimistic. Now I come on this thread and it looks like all the others. Can't we just have one thread where folks can come to get info about Delta hiring?

Sorry... Rant over.

Anyone gotten a "fix it" email or interview invite lately? I'm hoping they're getting down into the stack where us RJ line guys are. Best of luck to everyone on making a step up in their career soon!
100 a month in June and July then authorized for 75 a month to April 2015. I think the well connected types are about all hired at this point. There is no more pool and guys interviewing now are getting class dates about 6 weeks out from what I was told. Good time to be coming to Delta, I'm sure most RJ line guys with competitive mins will get a shot soon.
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Old 06-27-2014, 11:30 AM
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Well, I think the flying will go back to mainline as DCI implodes. The problem is the way that flying comes back. As I see it, there are two ways it comes back. Either they operate them at the mainline at mainline rates, or they come on board at our C scale type wages. The difference between the two is that they have to throw a ton of money at guys like Tsquare to get the C scale; He's licking his chops at that.
Not sure how you define C scale in this case. There are already "mainline" rates for E190-195 and CRJ900.

While there aren't rates for an E175 or CRJ700 yet, the CRJ900 overlaps almost exactly with the E175 anyway especially at DCI, so I don't think that would be a stumbling block at all.

Those rates are:

128/hr year one up to 140/hr year 12 for the CRJ900 and the EMB 195 is 150-164/hr.

FO rates are 70 first year going to 95-112 top scale depending on which variant. That's hardly a "C scale" although I would like to see the 190 brought to 195 rates instead of being included with CRJ900 rates, but that's JMHO.

All with mainline work rules, benefits and 15% B fund.

And that's what the company could instantly do whenever they want. I don't think the DCI crisis will ever reach the point where the company will want 50's at the mainline, but you never know I guess. But long before that ever happened, there is room to transfer the larger RJ flying to mainline and the pay in place to do so tomorrow if they wanted to.

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Old 06-27-2014, 11:33 AM
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Not sure how you define C scale in this case. There are already "mainline" rates for E190-195 and CRJ900.

While there aren't rates for an E175 or CRJ700 yet, the CRJ900 overlaps almost exactly with the E175 anyway especially at DCI, so I don't think that would be a stumbling block at all.

Those rates are:

128/hr year one up to 140/hr year 12 for the CRJ900 and the EMB 195 is 150-164/hr.

FO rates are 70 first year going to 95-112 top scale depending on which variant. That's hardly a "C scale" although I would like to see the 190 brought to 195 rates instead of being included with CRJ900 rates, but that's JMHO.

All with mainline work rules, benefits and 15% B fund.

And that's what the company could instantly do whenever they want. I don't think the DCI crisis will ever reach the point where the company will want 50's at the mainline, but you never know I guess. But long before that ever happened, there is room to transfer the larger RJ flying to mainline and the pay in place to do so tomorrow if they wanted to.

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That's what Tsquare doesn't want to pay for. He knows that if it falls apart on its own, management will come to you guys looking for options to continue the cost savings they had in the past with it.
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Old 06-27-2014, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah View Post
Well, I think the flying will go back to mainline as DCI implodes. The problem is the way that flying comes back. As I see it, there are two ways it comes back. Either they operate them at the mainline at mainline rates, or they come on board at our C scale type wages. The difference between the two is that they have to throw a ton of money at guys like Tsquare to get the C scale; He's licking his chops at that.
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That's what Tsquare doesn't want to pay for. He knows that if it falls apart on its own, management will come to you guys looking for options to continue the cost savings they had in the past with it.
Well, if management is as incompetent as you seem to think they are, we won't see any of this until it is desperation time. Then management will be willing to immediately throw a ton of money at us and since we will know that they are desperate why would we sign on to a "C" scale? Besides as Gloopy said, we already have rates.Or, maybe they aren't as desperate in which case we would have to hold out to ensure that you get a fine pay increase when you come here. That could take years, and cost millions of lives. So which is it Mr CEO? If DCI is as tenuous in it's existence as you profess, there is zero reason to sign onto a C scale.


Your post.... fail.

And.. not that I really care, but it is refreshing to know there are guys like you that have so little faith in their fellow pilots and potential future co-workers. Makes me just ecstatic to work with you someday.
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Old 06-27-2014, 12:07 PM
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And mashing buttons. I forgot about that one.
And checking the fire extinguishers to make sure the trigger "ain't been squoze".
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Old 06-27-2014, 12:35 PM
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Makes me just ecstatic to work with you someday.
You won't be, I don't plan on leaving the small jets till I'm 50, I'm still in my twenties now.
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