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Old 05-16-2015, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Flycameron View Post
Has anyone ever heard of anyone not being hired because of the technical test? It appears that most of the failures are because of the cog and hr, Is this true?
AK was at WAI and said that if you did NOT meet the minimum threshold score for the cog, aviation knowledge or interview you would not be offered a job. I'm sure there has been someone who failed the knowledge test but if you have gotten to the level that delta has invited you to interview you can relearn the info.
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Old 05-16-2015, 03:52 PM
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Has anyone ever heard of anyone not being hired because of the technical test? It appears that most of the failures are because of the cog and hr, Is this true?
New word from recent interviewees who got chance to talk to testing designers is that cog, tech, and mini-personality test scores are combined into a single composite score. Pass/Fail.

I do not know if there is a min passing score for each section, or a min number of passed sections, only that scores are combined overall.
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Old 05-20-2015, 11:38 AM
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If anyone else has an interview on the 26th, I'll be in ATL on Sunday a couple days early. If you would like to grab some food, and relax a little before the big day, PM me.
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Old 05-21-2015, 07:32 AM
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Finishing my airline apps, and had a question about school. Right out of high school and during high school, I took a couple college courses. But then I was in a different career and wasn't in a program. 9 years later when I changed my degree and went back to school, I was doing instructing while finishing my degree and building hours. I slowed my classes down at the end because I didn't want to graduate and have to start repaying my student loans before I had enough hours to get on with a regional.

So how big of a deal is it that my degree shows 13 years to complete since I'm not a doctor? Where is the best place to explain what happened and will it hurt my "score" when rating my application? Also, my driving record only goes back 8 years. I know I had a fender bender in my early 20's but it is not showing. Do I just guess on the dates or not include it since it is not on the official record?
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Old 05-21-2015, 08:15 AM
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I don't think the college classes during high school count. Start counting college years after HS grad. If your work history shows a full time job during college that will explain the long time line. I would just be prepared to answer for it in the interview. It might hurt in the scoring but you will never know how much. Just go with it and hope for the best.

As for the tickets and accidents I included the ones I remembered from HS. In the interview I explained that the dates were my best guess and they did not blink an eye.
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Finishing my airline apps, and had a question about school. Right out of high school and during high school, I took a couple college courses. But then I was in a different career and wasn't in a program. 9 years later when I changed my degree and went back to school, I was doing instructing while finishing my degree and building hours. I slowed my classes down at the end because I didn't want to graduate and have to start repaying my student loans before I had enough hours to get on with a regional.

So how big of a deal is it that my degree shows 13 years to complete since I'm not a doctor? Where is the best place to explain what happened and will it hurt my "score" when rating my application? Also, my driving record only goes back 8 years. I know I had a fender bender in my early 20's but it is not showing. Do I just guess on the dates or not include it since it is not on the official record?
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Old 05-21-2015, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned View Post
Finishing my airline apps, and had a question about school. Right out of high school and during high school, I took a couple college courses. But then I was in a different career and wasn't in a program. 9 years later when I changed my degree and went back to school, I was doing instructing while finishing my degree and building hours. I slowed my classes down at the end because I didn't want to graduate and have to start repaying my student loans before I had enough hours to get on with a regional.



So how big of a deal is it that my degree shows 13 years to complete since I'm not a doctor? Where is the best place to explain what happened and will it hurt my "score" when rating my application? Also, my driving record only goes back 8 years. I know I had a fender bender in my early 20's but it is not showing. Do I just guess on the dates or not include it since it is not on the official record?

From what you described education-wise, I'd consider listing college twice. The first entry I'd list dates after high school and under program list "non-degree courses" or something like that. The second entry would be dates for when you went back to school to pursue a specific degree program. That would cut the 9 year period out and might make it more clear on paper.
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Old 05-21-2015, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned View Post
Finishing my airline apps, and had a question about school. Right out of high school and during high school, I took a couple college courses. But then I was in a different career and wasn't in a program. 9 years later when I changed my degree and went back to school, I was doing instructing while finishing my degree and building hours. I slowed my classes down at the end because I didn't want to graduate and have to start repaying my student loans before I had enough hours to get on with a regional.

So how big of a deal is it that my degree shows 13 years to complete since I'm not a doctor? Where is the best place to explain what happened and will it hurt my "score" when rating my application? Also, my driving record only goes back 8 years. I know I had a fender bender in my early 20's but it is not showing. Do I just guess on the dates or not include it since it is not on the official record?
The important thing to remember about the weights and points and all that is to keep them in perspective. If "longer than 4 years" takes away points, it usually doesn't take away enough to not hire someone unless there are (usually several) other reasons not to hire them. And some things add points. Working your way through school and being a self starter are huge with most HR departments. DL's definately values that. 4 years at a party school on daddy's dime while not working isn't any better than 4+ working your way through on your own paying your own way working full time and financing your own flight training.

Get with a professional interview prep company. This is exactly the type of stuff they can help put on a T for you to not only mitigate the negatives but to absolutely knock it out of the park when asked. And you will be asked.
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Old 05-21-2015, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Redbird611 View Post
From what you described education-wise, I'd consider listing college twice. The first entry I'd list dates after high school and under program list "non-degree courses" or something like that. The second entry would be dates for when you went back to school to pursue a specific degree program. That would cut the 9 year period out and might make it more clear on paper.
Excellent suggestion Redbird. Thanks for the input. That would actually make more sense and be able to show when I went back to finish my ratings and degree.

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Get with a professional interview prep company. This is exactly the type of stuff they can help put on a T for you to not only mitigate the negatives but to absolutely knock it out of the park when asked. And you will be asked.
I have purchased the audio files from ECI and have been reviewing those. They have an application and resume review available as well. I was considering the app review but I wasn't sure how beneficial the resume review would be. Sounds like you are saying the application review would be worth the money. I was also planning on doing the interview prep as well.
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Old 05-21-2015, 09:36 AM
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I have heard that having to many hours is bad for your score. Does anyone know if this is actually true? I have around 10,500, all regional. The biggest problem is that no one was hiring for around 3-4 years which is right after I upgraded so I have been sitting around collecting hours.
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I have heard that having to many hours is bad for your score.
Having improper grammar is even worse.
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