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Old 06-21-2015 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Drago
Hi all, been lurking for awhile now, this is my first post. I have had a Delta application in for a couple of months now (I am not available to work until a couple months from now as well). I feel I am qualified to enter Delta directly from military service, but could use some help figuring out what to do until if/when I get an interview.

Some info about me: Mil IP/EP, 3800+ TT, 2500+ Turbine PIC, Only 450 multi-engine turbine, rest is single engine PC-12.

Assuming I don't get a Delta interview for 6-12 months after separating from USAF, what can I do to make myself more attractive to them? Would working for a regional make it better or worse? Are there regionals or some other kind of flying I could do that does not carry a commitment? I'd hate to get locked in to a regional for 2-3 years and get the call from Delta 1 month after starting that commitment. I have enough savings to sit around for 6+ months unemployed, but that probably doesn't look good either. Thanks in advance.
Drago,
Like the others have mentioned, I'd go somewhere and stay current. If your laser focused on Delta, then you could consider a DGS job (sim instructor) in ATL but in the end, going to a regional/cargo carrier might get you in Delta new higher class as soon as possible.

If you can take the QOL hit (i.e. long trips) then ATLAS or one of the on demand cargo carriers might be an option.

Regardless, keep your app up to date, keep hitting up your network of pilots that went before you for recommends and wait for that call/letter to happen.
I know it's hard to wait, but you'll appreciate it that much more when it happens and with the current demographics there will be lots of hiring to present opportunity.
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Old 06-21-2015 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Gspeed
This could be dangerous advice to anyone without military experience. The flows are taking up half of newhire classes, particularly at AA. That leaves only 50% of a class open to people off the street, most of which will be filled by pilots with a military background, secondary degree, family ties, gender or ethnic qualifiers, etc. I know the circumstances for Delta are slightly different because the flow doesn't take up quite as much of each class, but the result is mostly the same. Just my opinion, but the path to AA and Delta are much harder unless you work at a flow carrier or have extensive qualifications.
I don't give dangerous advice. Just good advice and I've helped a ton of people get hired. I am talking to a military person!!! Not giving advice to a c172 CFI. And almost all my buds from the mil checked the 121 box. Got a few hundred hours and picked up right away by a legacy.
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Old 06-21-2015 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
Drago,
Like the others have mentioned, I'd go somewhere and stay current. If your laser focused on Delta, then you could consider a DGS job (sim instructor) in ATL but in the end, going to a regional/cargo carrier might get you in Delta new higher class as soon as possible.

If you can take the QOL hit (i.e. long trips) then ATLAS or one of the on demand cargo carriers might be an option.

Regardless, keep your app up to date, keep hitting up your network of pilots that went before you for recommends and wait for that call/letter to happen.
I know it's hard to wait, but you'll appreciate it that much more when it happens and with the current demographics there will be lots of hiring to present opportunity.
I worked at atlas and most
of our class was from the military. They did not think it was a QOL hit except for the first year pay and training pay. Most seemed super happy when comparing it to big blue...I can only speak for Atlas I do about the other acmi but I can assume all are better than a regional
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Old 06-21-2015 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Drago
Thank you for the advice. Any recommendations for 121 regionals?

If I go with Compass, Delta wouldn't interview me until I reached my flow opportunity (2-3 years), right? So maybe not that one if I am looking to get hired by Delta sooner rather than later? Or am I completely misunderstanding what flow is?
The flow has been done since 2010 and people without flow rights are getting hired right now. Some mil guys have left after just 3 months on the line to Delta. If Compass works base wise do not let the flow discourage you. Some non flow people have even started at Delta before flow pilots.
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Old 06-21-2015 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Paok
I don't give dangerous advice. Just good advice and I've helped a ton of people get hired. I am talking to a military person!!! Not giving advice to a c172 CFI. And almost all my buds from the mil checked the 121 box. Got a few hundred hours and picked up right away by a legacy.
Sorry, I could have worded that better. I knew you were speaking to a military person and it wouldn't apply. I just didn't want a civvie reading your post out of context. Apologies.
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Old 06-21-2015 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Paok
Atlas is what helped get me hired at Delta
As I'm sure being able to check certain demographic boxes as well
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Old 06-21-2015 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Drago
Hi all, been lurking for awhile now, this is my first post. I have had a Delta application in for a couple of months now (I am not available to work until a couple months from now as well). I feel I am qualified to enter Delta directly from military service, but could use some help figuring out what to do until if/when I get an interview.

Some info about me: Mil IP/EP, 3800+ TT, 2500+ Turbine PIC, Only 450 multi-engine turbine, rest is single engine PC-12.

Assuming I don't get a Delta interview for 6-12 months after separating from USAF, what can I do to make myself more attractive to them? Would working for a regional make it better or worse? Are there regionals or some other kind of flying I could do that does not carry a commitment? I'd hate to get locked in to a regional for 2-3 years and get the call from Delta 1 month after starting that commitment. I have enough savings to sit around for 6+ months unemployed, but that probably doesn't look good either. Thanks in advance.
Aside from the currency issues, Delta values work ethic highly. I would strongly advise against sitting around for any significant length of time. The fewer gaps of employment, the better.

Burning terminal leave might be an exception, where you could do so without a true employment gap. But even in that case, I'd find a part time job or significant volunteer activity.
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Old 06-21-2015 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
As I'm sure being able to check certain demographic boxes as well
Definitely applying consistently for 7 years, having 7 type ratings, NCAA Division 1 full athletic scholarship while flight instructing, graduating in 3 years, Masters in 1.5 years with a 4.0, Regionals, Atlas, Military Heavy Aircraft Commander, having every civilian flight and ground rating, never failed a checkride and USAF pilot training distinguished graduate definitely helped...or maybe that the first entry in my prestine logbook was when I was 9 at my family's flight school...oh you were you referring to the fact I'm female. YOU'RE RIGHT! Must have JUST been that! No need for digs buddy I'm trying to help people out the way I was guided and why I got on at a Delta in my 20's. I had a mentor guiding me to become a major airline pilot since I was a little girl. I am so happy to help others and so many of my friends have been successful, no need for sour grapes.
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Old 06-21-2015 | 04:18 PM
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7 years? In that case, what took you so long?
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Old 06-21-2015 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
7 years? In that case, what took you so long?
Had my app in since I was 21 for most of that time Delta wasn't hiring... 😉
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