Quick if your app contains no errors and you're Tier 1.

Could be years or never if you get a fixit email and subsequently aren't Tier 1.

 

Sounds good. Thanks for the info.

 

For some clients, after reviewing their applications it has been as short as a week. For others, it has been over one year. It just depends on the mistakes we find on the application and the quality of the candidate.

If you have a question about your application, send us a PM or email. Good luck.

 

Thanks for your support, and for your service in 'Nam.

You know if it were up to me, the company would have to take our DB plan back from the PBGC and pay you, me, and every other Delta pilot who lost Millions, our full 60% FAE again, BEFORE the company pizz's away any more Billions on stock buy backs! How that is even legal is beyond me.

Oh, and I got to meet Snake, one on one, my very first day at Delta. We all showed up for day 1 class just prior to 0800. Some guy comes into our class, calling out my name. I said, "That's me." He said, "Grab your stuff, come with me."

I'm thinking...hmm...this can't be good. "Where are we going?"

"Captain Smith wants to talk to you."

(oh phuck...what have I done? I just got here!)

We go out into the parking lot, get into his car, drive across the street to the big red brick building. He walks me up to Snake's office, I'm greeted by his secretary, she says, "Go on in, have a seat, Captain Smith will be along in a few minutes."

I go into his office, sit in the chair, wait.... In walks Snake, I jump to attention, we shake hands, he say, "Have a seat. You know, I don't do any interviewing any more, so I like to see the type of people we are hiring these days, why don't you tell me about yourself."

Me, "Where do you want me to start?"

Him, "Anywhere you want."

So I start with my first ride in my dad's J3 when I was 8, up through all my 135 flying jobs, then joining the Air Guard, UPT, KC135's, more part 135, and I had just left right seat on a DC 9 flying boxes for Orion. (Purolator Currier contract).

He asks, "How did you like flying for Orion?"

I said, "It was great, they treated me well and the pay was good, and if I stayed there a little longer, I'd make Captain."

He said, "Why don't you tell me about the way you LEFT Orion?"

I had quit Orion, on a BOS layover, exactly 48 hours ago. Apparently the Chief Pilot had called Delta to tell them what a douchebag I was, quitting with zero notice, on a layover.

So....I explained how I would have loved have given them 2 weeks notice, but, "...you guys only gave me 48 hours notice to be here today. THIS is where I've always wanted to work, and all my airline mentors at the Guard told me, 'Don't EVER give up a class date! It could be the difference between making copilot, or captain, for YEARS!' so I called Orion as soon as I got off the phone with Dana (the gal from DL who called me Weds morning at 8) and I knew they had another copilot on reserve, in Indy (their hub) because I had just seen him there Tuesday night, and I called the Captain to let him know I wasn't coming that night, and I know they flew that F/O to BOS that morning and that plane left BOS on time that night."

He just smiled, stood up, (as did I) reached across his desk, shook my hand and said, "Well, I think you are going to have a fine career here at Delta Air Lines, now, get on back to class."

I could hardly walk, my knees were still shaking. I got on back to class, knowing I was now officially walking on egg shells for at least the next 12 months! (double secret probation).

Four weeks later, at the end of our 727 Engineer ground school, Snake comes to congratulate our class. I'm second youngest (26) so I'm sitting in the far back row, keeping my head down, maybe he won't remember me? It's been a month and maybe his memory and eyesight's not that good...

Snake walks to the front of the classroom, turns around, addresses the class, "Hi gentlemen, I'm Snake Smith, Vice President of Flight Operations, Tim and I have already met."

Yup, walking on eggshells!

 

Great story....thx for sharing.

BTW I totally agree with you about Delta's priorities with cash. Now they're saying they are going to give a percentage of their profits to charity. Seems like they should start with their own.

It's sad JM was ousted to be replaced by Moak. If JM was chairman at the time, I do not think there would have been anyway the termination of the DB plan would have happened. If JM has anything it's backbone. I am prejudiced though...we go a long way back. I was a Captain rep for C2K and one of the 49ers....do you remember the law suit? Anyway, John and I are still good friends. In fact when I heard he was taking on the job again I offered to run an intervention on him.

 

2 points
1st. It's criminal that you are only getting $300 a month in retirement

2nd. Thank you for your service in Nam!

 

I agree about JM, in fact when it was announced that LM was the new MEC Chairman, I had no idea who he was, so I called the DALPA office to ask why we were switching horses in mid stream. The answer I got from RH (CVG F/O rep then) was, "JM said he's not going to give the company any more concessions (this was between LOA 46 and 51) and the company said they can't get exit financing if we don't give them another 15% pay cut."

I said, "GOOD for John! FK them! WE have already given them ENOUGH!"

Well, it was too late, LM was in charge, and we were giving away more stuff, like our retirement and 15% more in pay.

Oh, I was also a 49'r, one of the 17 line pilots named in the suit, due to a post I put on the ALPA board, about the wh0res who were flying greenslips while Leo was dragging out our negotiations.

I think the line in that post that put me on the list was,

"If you can't live without a greenslip, you are Bushy's Beoch! He already owns you, and you are screwing the rest of us, who are NOT working overtime, and trying to get a better contract!"

 

I knew there was something I liked about you....a brother 49er!!!

 

"If you can't live without a greenslip, you are Bushy's Beoch! He already owns you, and you are screwing the rest of us, who are NOT working overtime, and trying to get a better contract!"[/QUOTE]

I enjoyed your entire post but the above statement caught my eye. As JM negotiates a new TA, it is the above availability of green slips and rolling thunder that will prevent any current deal from getting done. There's too many pilots jumping at the massive opportunities of overtime. Raises and QOL mean less. Now, if you leverage this ability to simply fly your "Normal" schedule, you will have the companies attention. Until then, business as usual with no urgency from Ed

 

I enjoyed your entire post but the above statement caught my eye. As JM negotiates a new TA, it is the above availability of green slips and rolling thunder that will prevent any current deal from getting done. There's too many pilots jumping at the massive opportunities of overtime. Raises and QOL mean less. Now, if you leverage this ability to simply fly your "Normal" schedule, you will have the companies attention. Until then, business as usual with no urgency from Ed[/QUOTE]

Yup, it's not a problem, until it's THEIR problem! As long as the wheels keep turning, they don't have a problem.

The issue with the 49'r lawsuit was, as our C2K contract negotiations dragged out 12 months past the amendable date, the MEC put out a series of "Know your contract" letters, each one explaining a part of our contract we should 'know' which would influence management to come to the table and get real, soon. Topics included such things as why we should fly, "Greenslip With Conflict" only, instead of regular GS, and other lesser known items available to pilots.

So the company said we were not flying enough over time...during November and December (the gall of those greedy pilots, wanting time off with the family around Thanksgiving and Christmas, instead of flying overtime!) and they had to cancel some flights, they filed a lawsuit, naming the entire 32 man MEC, plus 17 line pilots, (49 pilots total) for violating Status Quo in regards to not flying -enough- overtime, and for harassment of the pilots who were flying overtime.

When the contract was finally settled, the lawsuit was dropped as part of the settlement.