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Old 03-11-2017 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
...for a 2.5 GPA in poly sci...

You must not know much about PoliSci. That isn't one of the easier ones out there. I can attest to that.
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Old 03-14-2017 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilotdude3407
You must not know much about PoliSci. That isn't one of the easier ones out there. I can attest to that.
Depends on the school. He did specifically reference "party school".
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Old 03-14-2017 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
I took 7 years to get a degree and it was specifically talked about during my interview at DAL. HR kept mentioning that it was not DAL standard and I just told my story of college, flying AND having to work the entire seven years including summers to support myself and work towards my goals and get this opportunity today. Flashy? Nope but it was simply the truth. Almost 10 years later I still feel extremely fortunate. I had no hopes of landing the Job at Delta (did not fit the mold) and was shocked to be one of two that made it from the interview group!

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Longer than 4 years to graduate can easily be overcome - just don't be this guy:

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Old 03-15-2017 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Pilotdude3407
You must not know much about PoliSci. That isn't one of the easier ones out there. I can attest to that.
Being easy or not isn't the point. Spending 6 figures on degrees that produce almost zero additional ROI is the biggest scam of our generation(s).

And for all the hype about "college grads make a million more...blah blah blah" average means nothing in most cases, as the specific degree either adds significant value or it doesn't. The average is brought up by all the engineers, surgeons, 7 figure lawyers, 8-9 figure CEO's, etc. Just a few of those types can really skew the stats for large numbers of the part time baristas with double majors and crushing debt.

And just for fun, take that same 6 figure and put it into a typical investment vehicle (even a semi-conservative one). Most degrees can never, ever, come close to beating that in the long run.

Education and college aren't necessarily the same thing.
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Old 03-15-2017 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Being easy or not isn't the point. Spending 6 figures on degrees that produce almost zero additional ROI is the biggest scam of our generation(s).

And for all the hype about "college grads make a million more...blah blah blah" average means nothing in most cases, as the specific degree either adds significant value or it doesn't. The average is brought up by all the engineers, surgeons, 7 figure lawyers, 8-9 figure CEO's, etc. Just a few of those types can really skew the stats for large numbers of the part time baristas with double majors and crushing debt.

And just for fun, take that same 6 figure and put it into a typical investment vehicle (even a semi-conservative one). Most degrees can never, ever, come close to beating that in the long run.

Education and college aren't necessarily the same thing.
And since the forum topic is already well over the horizon...

We can attribute those outrageous college costs to easy-to-secure government loans. Colleges know what the "average" student can secure in loans and then sets their tuition under that cap. Imagine how much "free" college would cost the US taxpayers.
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
And since the forum topic is already well over the horizon...

We can attribute those outrageous college costs to easy-to-secure government loans. Colleges know what the "average" student can secure in loans and then sets their tuition under that cap. Imagine how much "free" college would cost the US taxpayers.
Exactly right.
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Old 03-16-2017 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
And since the forum topic is already well over the horizon...

We can attribute those outrageous college costs to easy-to-secure government loans. Colleges know what the "average" student can secure in loans and then sets their tuition under that cap. Imagine how much "free" college would cost the US taxpayers.
And those loans can't be discharged in BK. They will stay with you until you die and then Uncle Sam will get paid before your beneficiaries get a nickel.
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Old 03-16-2017 | 10:26 PM
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So at what point are we going to start looking at those who didn't blow 50-100k as the "smart ones" and hire them over the dummies that blew the money for a good old classic indoctrination

I mean it's a serious question. Soooo Mr prospective new hire you spent how much for your liberal arts degree? And you wanna be a pilot?

Next...

So Mr prospective new hire I see you didn't go to college?

Nope.

Why not?

I wanted to fly airplanes so I went to flight school and didn't feel like saddling my grandchildren with debt so I skipped that whole deal. Are you hiring pilots or people that like to burn money and waste time?
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Old 03-17-2017 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by billsaw
So at what point are we going to start looking at those who didn't blow 50-100k as the "smart ones" and hire them over the dummies that blew the money for a good old classic indoctrination

I mean it's a serious question. Soooo Mr prospective new hire you spent how much for your liberal arts degree? And you wanna be a pilot?

Next...

So Mr prospective new hire I see you didn't go to college?

Nope.

Why not?

I wanted to fly airplanes so I went to flight school and didn't feel like saddling my grandchildren with debt so I skipped that whole deal. Are you hiring pilots or people that like to burn money and waste time?
Haha. Good post. And who says you have to go to college first
and learn to fly second? Bite me Delta.

The most ironic degrees are in financing or economics where the kids leave school 100k in debt. What the hell did you learn??
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Old 03-17-2017 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by billsaw
So at what point are we going to start looking at those who didn't blow 50-100k as the "smart ones" and hire them over the dummies that blew the money for a good old classic indoctrination
Hopefully no time soon. Sure, there are some small minds who get nothing but an indoctrination out of four years at a prestigious university. I think those folks are a small minority. I have no heart burn with the hiring methodology at the moment.
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