What kind of lie would not be caught in a PRIA/Background check?

 

Good question. I don't have specifics.

 

One of Compass's flow pilots just posted on our forum that the company has informed them that they are extending all hold backs to 90 days. Looks like poolies will get moved up.

 

It's very difficult to get fired by Delta. You almost have to make it a goal and work at it. I believe we have the lowest rate of terminated pilots in the industry. Don't lie to them or steal from them and you will have no worries. The commuter policy is spelled out in the contract and there have been zero issues with the company on this probation or not.

 

This^^^^

If you do what you can to honestly get to work and you don't get there, Delta will have no issue with it. If you are waiting until the last flight to commute to NYC and using the commuting policy regularly, then you will have an issue. Even then, I would bet you won't be fired. I've never heard of anyone being fired for missing a commute. In fact the only people I've heard of that have been fired are guys who get felonies, and the NW guys who were on their laptops.

Basically at Delta when you do something that you find yourself wondering if it is OK, call the CP and let them know. You won't have a problem here if you are honest and let people know what is going on.

 

Just got the call for a June 2 class start date.....hired on Jan 22...things are really speeding up!!!

 

Very good info. I have some friends and a family member in the pool at Delta, so I appreciate the clarification.

 

Its also worth nothing that DL has one of the best probation systems in the industry. In addition to "timing out" at 400 block hours, which if you don't train twice during your first year you easily will (busy narrowbody categories could time out in month 7 or 8 including indoc very easily) you also gain protections after you finish OE.

18.D.2. is a very meaningful section and its simply false that you can be canned for anything. Getting terminated from obeying the rules of the commuting policy (contractual or the more generous company policy) would be a very indefensibile position for the company to take unless there were significant mitigating circumstances.

Pilots also have up to 120 days after probation to protest something. So the company can't just shred the contract for probies; they will have to answer for it eventually.

You can also ship 1000 pounds of stuff to your base as a probie new hire. Not many people take advantage of that, but its cool to have I guess. Anyway new hires should find the entire experience suportive and welcoming. Its not perfect, but its pretty good. The last thing we need are a perpetual subset of a couple hundred pilots operating "off contract" because they are afraid of being fired for no reason. Its not going to happen.

 

My simple advice on the whole issue? Why press to test? Regardless of how the policy is enforced, why risk it while on probation? I guess I'm just risk adverse...

There was a guy in the new hire class ahead of me who went in to the presentation given by a uniform vendor to the class behind me. He berated the guy for not having his uniform order ready. Delta found out about it and called the new hire in. He was told to apologize in person to his class, the class he interrupted, and the uniform vendor. He apologized in person to the two classes but he called the vendor. He was let go........

Just sayin'.................

Denny

 

That sounds like a 1980's story. I heard "back in the day" the uniform vendor was pal's with some high ups assuring him business. I don't believe that's the case anymore, anyway dumb move to berate anyone on probation.