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Old 12-16-2015 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by phoenixc130
What's the 19 January estimated class size? More than 40?
I'm tracking 36 off the street confirmed and possibly one off the street still to be filled plus the flows which are predicted at 6 for a total class size of at least 42-43. We should know more as the last emails go out and folks chime in...
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Old 12-16-2015 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JDF16
I'm tracking 36 off the street confirmed and possibly one off the street still to be filled plus the flows which are predicted at 6 for a total class size of at least 42-43. We should know more as the last emails go out and folks chime in...
That's a good start for the year. 70+ for January is better than December's 20.
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Old 12-17-2015 | 03:00 AM
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[QUOTE=Galaxydriver;2029102]Because a 5yr 737 FO will make the same as the 5yr 190 CA. And 5 yr 320, 88 or 717 FO not much less.

Agreed it doesn't make sense for 320 and higher. But what about the guys who have finished year one seat lock in a 717 or 88? That would be a significant pay raise to go to the left seat of a 190.
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Old 12-17-2015 | 04:08 AM
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[QUOTE=Kjazz130;2029247]
Originally Posted by Galaxydriver
Because a 5yr 737 FO will make the same as the 5yr 190 CA. And 5 yr 320, 88 or 717 FO not much less.

Agreed it doesn't make sense for 320 and higher. But what about the guys who have finished year one seat lock in a 717 or 88? That would be a significant pay raise to go to the left seat of a 190.
I believe a seat lock is broken on your first CA award. I also don't think the company wants new hires/first year guys/gals in the left seat regardless of their experience. I am sure they will come to ALPA to re-negotiate the 190 pay rates but will want something in return in TA2.
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Old 12-17-2015 | 12:16 PM
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19 JANUARY UPDATE: All 12 of our 26 May have been emailed with a spot in the class. Hope this means the flood gates are just beginning to open for all us poolies.
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Old 12-17-2015 | 12:22 PM
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[QUOTE=maddogmax;2029261]
Originally Posted by Kjazz130

I believe a seat lock is broken on your first CA award. I also don't think the company wants new hires/first year guys/gals in the left seat regardless of their experience. I am sure they will come to ALPA to re-negotiate the 190 pay rates but will want something in return in TA2.
You are not prevented from becoming a captain because of a seat lock but they are added together to form your new seat lock. If you were on a two year freeze and then immediately upgraded you'd now have a 4 year freeze for example (I know that is an unlikely scenario)...

Also, if they open a new category (defined as being 60 days or less old) the same deal applies. You can go to any new category even if you have a freeze but you will incur an additional freeze to be added to your current freeze. I've met quite a few pilots that say "there is no freeze for a new category" and that is sort of true. A freeze will not prevent you from going to a new category, but it will add a freeze to your current one and you will incur a two year freeze if you currently don't have one.

Just FYI for anyone who cares, the only way to not get a freeze is if you are MD'd. A VD will also give you a freeze but you'll at least the the paid move that an MD would have given you.
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Old 12-17-2015 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by NEO7117
19 JANUARY UPDATE: All 12 of our 26 May have been emailed with a spot in the class. Hope this means the flood gates are just beginning to open for all us poolies.
Congrats NEO--great news!
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Old 12-17-2015 | 01:36 PM
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Let's hope the next round of calls or emails flow through the June 4 CJOs! 2 classes of 50 would be money 💰!
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Old 12-17-2015 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by phoenixc130
Let's hope the next round of calls or emails flow through the June 4 CJOs! 2 classes of 50 would be money !

Let's get to the end of June please.....


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Old 12-17-2015 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JDF16
Congrats NEO--great news!
Thanks John! Finally...
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