Actually, the protected amount of Pacific flying is 85% of what was being operated at the time this deal was struck, not 80%. Similarly, the original requirement for operate 316 NRT slots was 80% of the number being operated by NWA at that time.

Just as factual is the concept that the minimum amount of flying required for Delta to codeshare beyond NRT rose from an average of 116,400 to a minimum of 182,750 annual block hours. In other words, this trade increased the protected number of block hours by over 55%.

I've not seen it in writing, but I've certainly heard it stated over and over again at roadshows and PUB events. Have you heard or seen in writing that DALPA intends NOT to file a grievance?

Are you sure about that? I've heard that we're not growing Europe as much as we had planned, but not that we're shrinking there. And what are AF/KL/AZ doing in the meantime. Their growth or shrinkage from Europe would also affect the balance of flying, right?

 

Finis, my man...someone has to say this. You had a great career, and seem like a good guy--even though we seem to agree on nothing.

You have earned a fantastic retirement. Why are you sullying it by wading back in? This is a backwater swamp. You belong on the open water. I envy you for being able to walk away from this madness.

You just retired. Let go. Get dialed in to your new life. Lingering here is not healthy. Come back in a year or two. Talk to badflaps, Tom Goodman, etc. They found their way back here...and are solid contributors. I value their opinions and perspective. They've moved on, and emotionally distanced themselves from the insanity. Please do the same.

 

OK. So the company isn't fulfilling its agreement...but might be backing into compliance (which, of course, doesn't help Delta pilots one iota) and you implicitly suggest that as a positive development. Are you more interested in helping DALPA or helping Delta pilots? Rhetorical. Your posts tell the story.


Sadly, your story has become tiresome.

 

OK - I get it, but that is where is where I get confused - maybe I am not remembering it correctly - so feel free to correct me if I am making a mistake in my recollection.


Wasn't the day 1 no earlier than noon obligation part of SD's management memo that came along with a two hour long call acknowledgement? I may be wrong (happens all the time) but it appears that you are taking the good portion of his decree which was not contractual and disregarding the bad portion. I think its a leap to assume a grievance win when the New FARs basically made our contract obsolete. And didn't the "no acknowledgment" requirement prove this?

Would you be willing to trade a 2 hour long call acknowledgement for a no earlier than noon show on day 1?

What was the contractual day 1 show time prior to the SD memo?

Even if the Day 1 show time was contractual at noon, I would still think the 5:15/day for all Pilots, reserve and line-holder, every rotation would win a referendum vote hands down against a potential day 1 report at 1000 obligation for a reserve Pilot.

I fly reserve more often than a line and I would take that every day of the month.

As far as potential leverage squandered - I don't know and I think we are getting into hypotheticals there. I am very happy with the 5:15/ADG.


Scoop

 

I'm on the 10 step program

 

You're not really "out" until you stop waking up thinking you missed pick-up time. (Fire bell and the horse.)

 

Thanks PD, in the nature of things, there is a bird in the forest that does not chirp, but squawks a warning.- Jack Handy? Atta boy, make 'em think.

 

You're correct, I got my 80% versus 85% mixed up with the wrong category. My apologies. It just illustrates that we keep allowing scope rewrites for lower and lower "protections."

I'm on my iPhone only for a while. Where is this in the contract?

If it's not in writing, it's meaningless blather. And no, I've not seen it in writing that DALPA will NOT file a grievance. I've read nothing at all, which is the point. The original question was one of examples of how DALPA doesn't defend contract language. You DALPA defenders can hang your hat on April 1, 2015 all you want, but that JV language will NOT be grieved...100% guaranteed. It will either be excused away as language too weak to grieve, or negotiated away. 100% guaranteed.

From what I've seen since the cure period started, we're pulling down Europe flying while our JV partners are putting larger gauge on. That looks like making it worse during the "cure" period.

Carl

 

We are growing in Europe. The company has put out the numbers several times. Jan 14 will be a 4% year over year increase.

 

Not at all. I was simply responding to Carl's comment that Delta's level of compliance was getting worse, not better, as Delta shrinks across the pond.

Love the video. Touch my monkey!!! Touch it!!!!!!!!!!!!