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#2551
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From: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Another thing to consider is the lower cost of debt servicing. It has been put out that when our company debt gets down to 5 Billion (B), from whatever ungodly number it peaked at, DAL will be saving 1B/year on interest payments. Let me say that again 1B a year!
We are currently looking at a very, very, favorable negotiating environment. Lets hope we make the most of it.
Scoop
We are currently looking at a very, very, favorable negotiating environment. Lets hope we make the most of it.
Scoop

Did you hear the one about the guy with the Ebola? Can you imagine?
Or how about those Isis dudes? They're a rough crowd! Can you imagine?
And what about Pay Banding?? Everyone's doing it, WE should too!
We'd better take a pay cut now and avoid the rush...
#2552
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From: A330 First Officer
You've kind of been there before. I know you've been furloughed from an airline job, however you have not been furloughed from a major airline job. A lot of people will not even talk to you about a job while on furlough because they KNOW you will eventually get called back and WILL leave. Not so much if furloughed from another regional airline.
#2553
Oberon,
You've kind of been there before. I know you've been furloughed from an airline job, however you have not been furloughed from a major airline job. A lot of people will not even talk to you about a job while on furlough because they KNOW you will eventually get called back and WILL leave. Not so much if furloughed from another regional airline.
You've kind of been there before. I know you've been furloughed from an airline job, however you have not been furloughed from a major airline job. A lot of people will not even talk to you about a job while on furlough because they KNOW you will eventually get called back and WILL leave. Not so much if furloughed from another regional airline.
#2554
Bottom line is that for whatever your motivations, you're working hard to ensure the minimization of pilot costs to Delta. There's a lot of folks here who clearly see it too. I just hope these activities of which you are part ultimately fail.
Carl
#2556
Let me summarize all this above. I'm not stating what "group" you're part of. You're the one doing that. I'm talking about you as an individual. As an individual, your posts are designed to ensure pilot costs are minimized. Period. You're clearly being managed by someone within DALPA or management (not that there's a difference) to post on web forums to ensure the message of minimizing pilot costs to Delta. The person who is managing you is absolutely doing the bidding of a Ford and Harrison union buster.
Hope this helps.
Carl
Hope this helps.
Carl
#2557
Don't mean to minimize furlough risk, but how many of those 3100 jobs lost were due to the loss of flight engineer positions? I'd guess it's a pretty large portion. DC-10's, 747-200's, 727s, L-1011's...that's a lot of extra dudes.
#2559

Seriously though, I hadn't heard of issues in indoc; do you have details?
#2560
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Look folks, there's a reason DALPA won't touch the word restoration. There's a reason why guys like alfaromeo, slowplay, shiznit, tsquare, etc., won't ever use the word except to denigrate its use. There's a reason newbies like Oberon constantly state their opinions that restoration means nothing to anybody during negotiations. The reason all these various DALPA-oids hate that word is because it's so powerfully righteous. Restoration in C2K was used as an objective, a baseline, a rallying cry, and an easily understood argument to the NMB if it had come to that. Restoration worked.
When the Oberons out there continuously rant against the use of the word restoration, they're not doing so as advice to seek alternatives that would work better for us. They're doing so to desperately try to convince us to voluntarily surrender on the proven objective that would work.
Carl
When the Oberons out there continuously rant against the use of the word restoration, they're not doing so as advice to seek alternatives that would work better for us. They're doing so to desperately try to convince us to voluntarily surrender on the proven objective that would work.
Carl
In Forumlandia, the sideline whiners are viewed as truly heroic while the people trudging away doing the work are viewed as weak and spineless.
I think I prefer the real world. I know you prefer Forumlandia. Easy to be a big shot in Forumlandia where don't have to take any responsibility and you can hide your fear behind bloviation.
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