Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1740965)

Oberon, why do you post here? What is your agenda? :confused:

Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1740881)

The Co is working on the fringes of a mature contract. Not a lot of efficiencies to squeeze out of a pilot group working to the FARs with horrible vacation and a nefarious sick leave policy. 5 bucks says we see this one in the opener.

Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1740881)

The Co is working on the fringes of a mature contract. Not a lot of efficiencies to squeeze out of a pilot group working to the FARs with horrible vacation and a nefarious sick leave policy. 5 bucks says we see this one in the opener.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1741014)

Horrible vacation? Really? In November, the ALV (and res guarantee) in my category is 72. I will bid reserve with 9 days of vacation. I'll be "on call" for 12, and get paid 79:39. Yeah, it really really sucks. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1740965)

Oberon, why do you post here? What is your agenda? :confused:

Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin (Post 1741046)

So it's ok for you and your friends to have one view point/agenda but no one else? Grow up kid.

Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1741027)

Wow. You got 5 less on call days for 9 days of vacation. Amazing. You really need to get some friends at FDX and SWA.

When vacation value goes to 5:15, call me. Still won't be as good as SWA but at least we will be in the same zip code.

Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 1740988)

Who is working to FARs? Certainly not me or any number of guys I have met. I rather like our vacation system as well--though we need more pay per day.

If you think we have a "horrible" vacation system (outside of internet la-la land anonymous whining) then you just don't understand all the great things that you can do with it (vacation slide, vacation any, purchase more vacation days, bid reserve in a vacation month, then Rolling Thunder, etc).

Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1741027)

Wow. You got 5 less on call days for 9 days of vacation. Amazing. You really need to get some friends at FDX and SWA.

When vacation value goes to 5:15, call me. Still won't be as good as SWA but at least we will be in the same zip code.

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1740945)

And that kind of a trade would screw anyone who was trying to drop a high time trip, if it meant their line would go below a certain value.

While on the surface, a 6hr. min day in trades sounds great, and it would work for the domestic trips, most of our 8+ hour International legs won't benefit by a 6hr. min day, but WILL be affected if you have a 30-45+ hour international trip on your 80hr. line and you want to drop it, to pick up something else, or just get some time off.

Beware of what you ask for, you might get it! :eek:

Perhaps there should be a different rules for International trips vs. domestic trips, when it comes to min line value, min hrs./day, etc.?

And then there's the whole Green Slip game too...drop all your trips, and only pick up greenslips, double your line value in an understaffed category? Maybe that's what they are really after?