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01-10-2015 | 05:27 AM
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I also don't think there's any question that most of us remember how short-lived the hefty gains were in the last decade. We survive as pilots because we don't trust everything to be hunky dory all the time. With C2015, how cautious or how aggressive we should be is not up to any one of us. It's up to all of us. In the end, if ALPA is too cautious, our ratification vote will make that clear. I'm ok with that.
01-10-2015 | 06:22 AM
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I agree. There's no question the timing is good for us to make some hefty gains.
I also don't think there's any question that most of us remember how short-lived the hefty gains were in the last decade. We survive as pilots because we don't trust everything to be hunky dory all the time. With C2015, how cautious or how aggressive we should be is not up to any one of us. It's up to all of us. In the end, if ALPA is too cautious, our ratification vote will make that clear. I'm ok with that.
I also don't think there's any question that most of us remember how short-lived the hefty gains were in the last decade. We survive as pilots because we don't trust everything to be hunky dory all the time. With C2015, how cautious or how aggressive we should be is not up to any one of us. It's up to all of us. In the end, if ALPA is too cautious, our ratification vote will make that clear. I'm ok with that.
01-10-2015 | 06:32 AM
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That's what happened in 2012.
They bring back a lousy TA and then say "you can always vote no, but here's why that would be the end of the world".
01-10-2015 | 06:37 AM
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Exactly. They need to know loud and clear that crap tactic is unacceptable.
01-10-2015 | 07:43 AM
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"The industry is fundamentally changed. Double digit rate of returns are hear to stay!" That was the Mantra being touted by management and unions alike in 2000. By June of 2001 the airlines were facing some of the biggest losses ever. It turned in the blink of a eye. For the young guys we need to be very careful how much at risk based compensation we leave in our contracts. It would be beyond stupid to negotiate based on good times forever.
01-10-2015 | 08:01 AM
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Did you think voting No would be the end of the world? I didn't.
Exaggerating the tone of the advice we got during the ratification of C2012 sounds like sour grapes.
01-10-2015 | 08:04 AM
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Its very transparent what is happening here.
DALPA is going to try and get us to fund part of our own pay raises.
We're not going to fall for it this time.
01-10-2015 | 08:09 AM
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I have asked this question several times here and never been given a answer. Why on earth would our reps and negotiating committee have some sort of plan to limit contractual gains? Why would they want to pay themselves less and work more?
01-10-2015 | 08:33 AM
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2 They like working more.
3 They don't ever want to retire.
4 They don't ever plan to be sick.
5 They don't believe in vacation.
6 None of them ever return to the line.
7 They are all going to get SD's job.
8 They are all secretly bought off.
9 Lee and Tim told them to.
10 RA used his hypnotic powers on them.
I could be wrong about number 10 as the committees usually wear aluminum foil on their heads during negotiations. OFG
01-10-2015 | 08:36 AM
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