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04-14-2015 | 11:36 AM
#3682
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Count yourself as a loser if you can't comprehend how others could hold a perspective or priorities that are different than yours, so you allege some corruption of the process (or participants) for the results.
It was a vote. Your vote was cast on the losing side.
Own it.
04-14-2015 | 11:49 AM
#3683
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 852
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I like block status representation, with protections against having all reps from the same base.
There should be videotaped candidate debates available to all voters in the council. (The moderator should be someone from another ALPA carrier)
I'd like to see LEC and MEC meetings streamed via video on the secure site.
I think there should be term limits.
ALPA needs to improve the response time (staffing?) of Scheduling assistance. We have a couple of committees that have 24/7 coverage for assistance, but not Scheduling.
LEC meetings should be monthly, at the airport, and feature SMEs on a rotating schedule.
ALPA should reinstate the Forum.
There should be videotaped candidate debates available to all voters in the council. (The moderator should be someone from another ALPA carrier)
I'd like to see LEC and MEC meetings streamed via video on the secure site.
I think there should be term limits.
ALPA needs to improve the response time (staffing?) of Scheduling assistance. We have a couple of committees that have 24/7 coverage for assistance, but not Scheduling.
LEC meetings should be monthly, at the airport, and feature SMEs on a rotating schedule.
ALPA should reinstate the Forum.
04-14-2015 | 12:09 PM
#3684
Back on TDY
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 12,487
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From: 747-400 Captain
The arrogance and detachment speaks for itself.
Carl
04-14-2015 | 12:12 PM
#3685
Da Hudge
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,473
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From: Poodle Whisperer
No, I didn't describe anybody, and I'm not backtracking. It was a complete sentence. Read it and interpret it as one.
THAT is correct!
Count yourself as a loser if you can't comprehend how others could hold a perspective or priorities that are different than yours, so you allege some corruption of the process (or participants) for the results.
It was a vote. Your vote was cast on the losing side.
Own it.
THAT is correct!
Count yourself as a loser if you can't comprehend how others could hold a perspective or priorities that are different than yours, so you allege some corruption of the process (or participants) for the results.
It was a vote. Your vote was cast on the losing side.
Own it.
04-14-2015 | 12:17 PM
#3686
Runs with scissors
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 7,847
Likes: 0
From: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
I like block status representation, with protections against having all reps from the same base.
There should be videotaped candidate debates available to all voters in the council. (The moderator should be someone from another ALPA carrier)
I'd like to see LEC and MEC meetings streamed via video on the secure site.
I think there should be term limits.
ALPA needs to improve the response time (staffing?) of Scheduling assistance. We have a couple of committees that have 24/7 coverage for assistance, but not Scheduling.
LEC meetings should be monthly, at the airport, and feature SMEs on a rotating schedule.
ALPA should reinstate the Forum.
There should be videotaped candidate debates available to all voters in the council. (The moderator should be someone from another ALPA carrier)
I'd like to see LEC and MEC meetings streamed via video on the secure site.
I think there should be term limits.
ALPA needs to improve the response time (staffing?) of Scheduling assistance. We have a couple of committees that have 24/7 coverage for assistance, but not Scheduling.
LEC meetings should be monthly, at the airport, and feature SMEs on a rotating schedule.
ALPA should reinstate the Forum.
04-14-2015 | 12:21 PM
#3687
Da Hudge
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,473
Likes: 0
From: Poodle Whisperer
I like block status representation, with protections against having all reps from the same base.
There should be videotaped candidate debates available to all voters in the council. (The moderator should be someone from another ALPA carrier)
I'd like to see LEC and MEC meetings streamed via video on the secure site.
I think there should be term limits.
ALPA needs to improve the response time (staffing?) of Scheduling assistance. We have a couple of committees that have 24/7 coverage for assistance, but not Scheduling.
LEC meetings should be monthly, at the airport, and feature SMEs on a rotating schedule.
ALPA should reinstate the Forum.
There should be videotaped candidate debates available to all voters in the council. (The moderator should be someone from another ALPA carrier)
I'd like to see LEC and MEC meetings streamed via video on the secure site.
I think there should be term limits.
ALPA needs to improve the response time (staffing?) of Scheduling assistance. We have a couple of committees that have 24/7 coverage for assistance, but not Scheduling.
LEC meetings should be monthly, at the airport, and feature SMEs on a rotating schedule.
ALPA should reinstate the Forum.
04-14-2015 | 12:33 PM
#3688
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 115
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This again? Standard straw man arguments of every single DALPA apologist back then. So here we go again: The reps were not too dumb to know what they voted for. The reps were precisely and purposefully put in a very tough position by the MEC administration. That position was to either vote for a TA that did not meet their direction to the administration or the pilots' surveys, or vote down the TA and start again with an all new negotiating committee. The reps made the best of two very bad choices.
See above.
I know this from my reps and the reps of other bases as told to me by friends from other bases. There is no question that happened. None.
Feel free to join Karnak and Falcon in defending that MEC administration. Lots of people here remember exactly what happened...despite this occasional attempt to revise history.
Almost all of it very one sided, and some flat out misleading.
Again, nobody said you were. You're the only one making that accusation as shown by the beginning of your post. Most of the DALPA apologists follow this exact same template. Throw out a completely false premise, then put forth a passionate fight against your own false premise. Imagine the coincidence.
Carl
See above.
I know this from my reps and the reps of other bases as told to me by friends from other bases. There is no question that happened. None.
Feel free to join Karnak and Falcon in defending that MEC administration. Lots of people here remember exactly what happened...despite this occasional attempt to revise history.
Almost all of it very one sided, and some flat out misleading.
Again, nobody said you were. You're the only one making that accusation as shown by the beginning of your post. Most of the DALPA apologists follow this exact same template. Throw out a completely false premise, then put forth a passionate fight against your own false premise. Imagine the coincidence.
Carl
I wasn't forced into voting for anything, I understood the deal. I have never heard my reps say they were forced, duped or tricked into anything. This sounds like a made up story by people that were upset about losing a vote. CONSPIRACY!!!!!!
04-14-2015 | 12:48 PM
#3689
Back on TDY
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 12,487
Likes: 0
From: 747-400 Captain
I own all of my decisions as do the TA2012 NO voters. The reps forced that MEC administration to own their corruption of our processes by getting rid of many of them. The reps are on high alert this time for similar behavior, or a different attempt at minimizing their relevance in this process. Don't know if it will work because some of the old players have found their way back to the trough.
Carl
04-14-2015 | 12:51 PM
#3690
Back on TDY
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 12,487
Likes: 0
From: 747-400 Captain
I like block status representation, with protections against having all reps from the same base.
There should be videotaped candidate debates available to all voters in the council. (The moderator should be someone from another ALPA carrier)
I'd like to see LEC and MEC meetings streamed via video on the secure site.
I think there should be term limits.
ALPA needs to improve the response time (staffing?) of Scheduling assistance. We have a couple of committees that have 24/7 coverage for assistance, but not Scheduling.
LEC meetings should be monthly, at the airport, and feature SMEs on a rotating schedule.
ALPA should reinstate the Forum.
There should be videotaped candidate debates available to all voters in the council. (The moderator should be someone from another ALPA carrier)
I'd like to see LEC and MEC meetings streamed via video on the secure site.
I think there should be term limits.
ALPA needs to improve the response time (staffing?) of Scheduling assistance. We have a couple of committees that have 24/7 coverage for assistance, but not Scheduling.
LEC meetings should be monthly, at the airport, and feature SMEs on a rotating schedule.
ALPA should reinstate the Forum.
Carl
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