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80ktsClamp 05-05-2015 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 1873928)
It was mentioned at a 44 meeting or road show.

Correct. Big things are coming if we say yes to it! I heard it downstairs in ops as well.

ERflyer 05-05-2015 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 1873881)
You are correct.

Particularly that BS sales line of "We will never see the 3-3. Trust us. [wink wink and we signed a confidentiality agreement]."

And everyone also said we'd "never" have profits above $2.5B so all that extra profit sharing would not come to pass. And now that it has all the naysayers are shouting "Don't touch profit sharing!"

C2012 has returned 30%+ since we signed it but still people like you focus on 3-3 vice the net positives. So if we sign early and we get 10% July 1st did we get a 3% raise this year or 13%? Let me guess: only 3%.

orvil 05-05-2015 08:17 AM

I don't have a copy of the minutes for Sailing. I heard the we won't see 3 3 at the 44 roadshow in PTC. It was right before the fight broke out.

sailingfun 05-05-2015 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by orvil (Post 1874052)
I don't have a copy of the minutes for Sailing. I heard the we won't see 3 3 at the 44 roadshow in PTC. It was right before the fight broke out.

I went to the road show. No fights. Was it a pub night?

Timbo 05-05-2015 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1874088)
I went to the road show. No fights. Was it a pub night?

You went to the Council 44 road show, in Peachtree City? There was a shoving match, well documented.

BTW, I heard the same thing about never seeing the two 3% raises, from the 44 LEC Chairman, when I called him to ask him why in the heck I should vote for it. He said Richard was going to buy someone else, and we would be back in negotiations with better increases, long before those two 3% raises kicked in...

I guess someone forgot to tell Richard.

index 05-05-2015 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1873885)
I am curious. Where and who told you that. The only place I ever saw it was here. It was never in any Union material and was not mentioned at the road show I attended or in talking directly with one of the negotiators.

Your attempt to rewrite history is a FAIL. I heard it ("you'll never see the 3/3") straight from MH as well.

sailingfun 05-05-2015 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by index (Post 1874144)
Your attempt to rewrite history is a FAIL. I heard it ("you'll never see the 3/3") straight from MH as well.

The roadshow I attended was at the airport. Might even have been JFK but think it was the Marriot ATL. No fights, just the facts on the contract. Never saw anything in print either. Who is MH?

orvil 05-05-2015 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1874316)
The roadshow I attended was at the airport. Might even have been JFK but think it was the Marriot ATL. No fights, just the facts on the contract. Never saw anything in print either. Who is MH?

Peachtree City road show. Covered extensively on the forum.

index 05-05-2015 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1874316)
Who is MH?

You can't be serious sailing.

Purple Drank 05-05-2015 02:10 PM

I think sailingfun has rendered himself less credible/relevant than Lumburgh.


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