Details on Delta TA
05-07-2015 | 02:05 PM
#3991
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Iow, it dis-incentivizes switching between planes which are in the same pay band.
I can be very much for things which streamline company operations. This one, I can't get on board with because it has the potential to require double digit percentage fewer pilots. And not to be oblique, but that could be anywhere from 10-30% fewer (somewhere in there) at various times.
Two new words for the day dis-incentive and oblique. "Give me underboob or give me death." What Nathan Hale really said.
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05-07-2015 | 02:17 PM
#3992
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Interesting. So a coordinated leak from management that included some Wall Street players.
My rep (whom I trust) said this is leak is straight from the company to put negotiators on the defensive and induce some pressure to finish the deal. He assured me no deal is imminent.
My rep (whom I trust) said this is leak is straight from the company to put negotiators on the defensive and induce some pressure to finish the deal. He assured me no deal is imminent.
That being said, this rumor is very specific and has the insiders fingerprints all over it.
It will be great news if it is just management's opener and we make gains that are vastly superior to the rumor.
05-07-2015 | 02:42 PM
#3993
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Some of the biggest gainers among transportation stocks include:
Ryanair Holdings Plc (RYAAY): RYAAY stock is up 3.8% today.
United Continental Holdings (UAL): UAL stock is up 3.3% today.
Delta Air Lines Inc (DAL): DAL stock is up 2.8% today.
Southwest Airlines Company (LUV): LUV stock is up 2.0% today.
Allegiant Travel Company (ALGT): ALGT stock is up 1.7% today.
Hawaiian Holdings (HA): HA stock is up 1.5% today.
Alaska Air Group (ALK): ALK stock is up 1.8% today.
05-07-2015 | 03:02 PM
#3994
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And you stampeded to vote YES for it.
FAR 117 negotiations were a huge win for the pilots. 5.15 ADG, and applicable to reserves was a giant improvement...or do you long for the "good ol' days" where a two day trip would pay a reserve four hours? (when I got hired 18 years ago EVERY reserve was on automatic SC at 0300 on his first on call day; "good ol' days?" I think nyet)
The NRT block hours agreement was a realization on DALPA's part (but not yours) that the world changes and we better not keep our head in the sand and pretend that it is 1992 forever. I would rather have a percentage of flying guarantee for the entire Pacific than continue to cling to an increasingly irrelevant and outdated NRT-only agreement.
Carl
05-07-2015 | 03:33 PM
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05-07-2015 | 03:54 PM
#3997
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Why not just take away the "fly with LCA" option in the PBS system, and dis-allow the X day formula that lets guys on WB guarantee they'll never fly?
Then.....LEAVE MY PS ALONE!
thank you!
Then.....LEAVE MY PS ALONE!
thank you!
05-07-2015 | 04:01 PM
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Facts might be nice. Your problem is thinking your personal opinions are fact.
That is demonstrably false. The Delta pilot's contract doesn't lead the industry in a single section. Not one. You can look for yourself by studying the DALPA produced contract comparison. This is yet another example of you thinking that your personal opinion is fact.
See above. Your personal W2 compared to FedEx or anyone else does not equal a claim of working under the best contract of any legacy carrier.
As long as you don't have to be in conflict with management in any way.
Carl
That is demonstrably false. The Delta pilot's contract doesn't lead the industry in a single section. Not one. You can look for yourself by studying the DALPA produced contract comparison. This is yet another example of you thinking that your personal opinion is fact.
See above. Your personal W2 compared to FedEx or anyone else does not equal a claim of working under the best contract of any legacy carrier.
As long as you don't have to be in conflict with management in any way.
Carl
05-07-2015 | 04:01 PM
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