Details on Delta TA
#4561
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Capt
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There is a train of thought that maybe had we all done a contract together, we all would have been better off.
#4562
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
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WI agree completely. Another issue is that not all LCA trips are actually used for training. Also, quite a few LCA swap their trips around after the initial bid comes out. Withholding trips hurts all the first officers in a category not just senior guys because there are less trips in the pot overall for bidding.
#4563
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I agree completely. Another issue is that not all LCA trips are actually used for training. Also, quite a few LCA swap their trips around after the initial bid comes out. Withholding trips hurts all the first officers in a category not just senior guys because there are less trips in the pot overall for bidding.
I agree completely. Another issue is that not all LCA trips are actually used for training. Also, quite a few LCA swap their trips around after the initial bid comes out. Withholding trips hurts all the first officers in a category not just senior guys because there are less trips in the pot overall for bidding.
#4567
#4568
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The problem with the "genius" is that he's a total Alpha Hotel. I've dealt with him personally. We're negotiating with sharks, independent thinkers, who will be two steps ahead of inside the box thinkers
RH thinks he's the smartest guy in the room, he'll tell you himself. Crunching numbers doesn't make you a genius. Kids in Singapore can do that stuff. Beating the former HR guy, the U of Va Phi Beta Kappa will be the proof.
RH thinks he's the smartest guy in the room, he'll tell you himself. Crunching numbers doesn't make you a genius. Kids in Singapore can do that stuff. Beating the former HR guy, the U of Va Phi Beta Kappa will be the proof.
#4569
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Joined APC: Aug 2013
Posts: 40
I am not sure a lot of FO's know just how much of a concession this is if true...Like I have said before even if they are not bidding with LCA now they will be shortly as they gain senority..I know guys at 50% relative position that are getting all trips with LCA, so it is not just for the super senior guys/girls. Not to mention if the trips are pulled out of the pot so no FO can bid the trips. Every single FO needs to look very close at this concession when they vote on the TA. Instant no vote for me.
The one thing that will happen is that Dalpa/Alpa will show it's true beliefs as far as negotiations and pilot worth. Never has there been a better time to negotiate. There is no bankruptcy, no recovery, etc. that they can hide behind. This time they will have to stand on there own. There are no excuses this time. Previously the concessions were balance against the economy and recovery, even though there were disagreements all the economics were a gamble in many pilots eyes. This time it's pretty clear business is great. In other words, there can be no argument for concessionary contract or zero cost contract. It should be at a minimum 90% in our favor. Wheels are in motion and probably not much one can do to change whats going to happen. However, out of this will come the certainty of what Dalpa stands for. Against uncertain economics at least half the pilots gave Dalpa the benefit of the doubt. It will be interesting if Dalpa shows up with the same plan of a trade off for a contract. Well we'll see how the group feels about that when there is no argument against the backdrop of a bad economic situation. I will be curious to see how the pilots react as a group just as much as what Dalpa will deliver.
Interesting times when all the excuse are gone!
#4570
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The problem with the "genius" is that he's a total Alpha Hotel. I've dealt with him personally. We're negotiating with sharks, independent thinkers, who will be two steps ahead of inside the box thinkers
RH thinks he's the smartest guy in the room, he'll tell you himself. Crunching numbers doesn't make you a genius. Kids in Singapore can do that stuff. Beating the former HR guy, the U of Va Phi Beta Kappa will be the proof.
RH thinks he's the smartest guy in the room, he'll tell you himself. Crunching numbers doesn't make you a genius. Kids in Singapore can do that stuff. Beating the former HR guy, the U of Va Phi Beta Kappa will be the proof.
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