Details on Delta TA
05-21-2015, 06:02 PM
#4521
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Originally Posted by redship
I'm guessing this has already been discussed but I'm hearing more 76 seat RJs will probably be a part of this TA. I don't really care what the claimed exchange is (mainline flying 105 E190/195s), I am sick of feeding the regionals more relevant RJs. If the 76 seat market is so important then let's force Delta to fly them with Delta pilots.
05-21-2015, 06:09 PM
#4522
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Originally Posted by D Mantooth
Well, I guess I'll just assume they have bad memories!
Believing them is of course your right, and you don't know me from an anonymous webboard.
I'll stick with my first-hand recollection.
I'd only ask you to consider that while some reps felt the process wasn't followed, most know that it was. I'd also ask that you consider that the discrepancy might have come from a misunderstanding on one side or the other, rather than something nefarious.
Believing them is of course your right, and you don't know me from an anonymous webboard.
I'll stick with my first-hand recollection.
I'd only ask you to consider that while some reps felt the process wasn't followed, most know that it was. I'd also ask that you consider that the discrepancy might have come from a misunderstanding on one side or the other, rather than something nefarious.
It's total chickenshiz for characters like you to show up here dropping bits of unverifiable information, telling us you know because you act in some official capacity. It's the same BS as telling us the survey results indicate (fill in the blank) when you wont release the damm survey for all to see.
DALPA has serious credibility issues with this pilot group. Hacks like you only make it worse. Start acting like a union we can get behind and then and only then will you earn the respect of the line pilots you represent.
A wise man once said "Leadership is not a title, it's an action". Drop the BS and start leading.
05-21-2015, 06:17 PM
#4523
Straight QOL, homie
Joined APC: Feb 2012
Position: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
As far as contract 2012 I can't say I was a strong advocate for it
You were a Top 5 cheerleader for C12, parroting the company's talking points and spewing FUD as far and wide as you could.
Seriously, if your quote is the way you remember it, get checked for dementia or another psychosis. Don't do it for yourself; do it for your family.
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05-21-2015, 06:19 PM
#4524
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Originally Posted by EdGrimley
If you are going to pop on this web board out of nowhere stating that "you were there" then you should have no problem telling us who you are and in what official capacity you were acting to be "there".
It's total chickenshiz for characters like you to show up here dropping bits of unverifiable information, telling us you know because you act in some official capacity. It's the same BS as telling us the survey results indicate (fill in the blank) when you wont release the damm survey for all to see.
DALPA has serious credibility issues with this pilot group. Hacks like you only make it worse. Start acting like a union we can get behind and then and only then will you earn the respect of the line pilots you represent.
A wise man once said "Leadership is not a title, it's an action". Drop the BS and start leading.
It's total chickenshiz for characters like you to show up here dropping bits of unverifiable information, telling us you know because you act in some official capacity. It's the same BS as telling us the survey results indicate (fill in the blank) when you wont release the damm survey for all to see.
DALPA has serious credibility issues with this pilot group. Hacks like you only make it worse. Start acting like a union we can get behind and then and only then will you earn the respect of the line pilots you represent.
A wise man once said "Leadership is not a title, it's an action". Drop the BS and start leading.
But it's fine for others to make unfounded allegations? I see.
I thought this was an anonymous board? I've written hundreds of communication pieces and had no problem signing my name to them all. I say nothing different here than I said publicly.
If you want to change the rules of this board so we all just sign our names, I'm fine with that. It just seemed to me that many posters preferred anonymity.
05-21-2015, 06:27 PM
#4525
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Originally Posted by gzsg
At least the MEC is honoring our survey.
Unless they know more stuff Richard told them and they know better than we do.
Unless they know more stuff Richard told them and they know better than we do.
05-21-2015, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by D Mantooth
But it's fine for others to make unfounded allegations? I see.
I thought this was an anonymous board? I've written hundreds of communication pieces and had no problem signing my name to them all. I say nothing different here than I said publicly.
If you want to change the rules of this board so we all just sign our names, I'm fine with that. It just seemed to me that many posters preferred anonymity.
I thought this was an anonymous board? I've written hundreds of communication pieces and had no problem signing my name to them all. I say nothing different here than I said publicly.
If you want to change the rules of this board so we all just sign our names, I'm fine with that. It just seemed to me that many posters preferred anonymity.
05-21-2015, 06:32 PM
#4527
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Originally Posted by D Mantooth
But it's fine for others to make unfounded allegations? I see.
I thought this was an anonymous board? I've written hundreds of communication pieces and had no problem signing my name to them all. I say nothing different here than I said publicly.
If you want to change the rules of this board so we all just sign our names, I'm fine with that. It just seemed to me that many posters preferred anonymity.
I thought this was an anonymous board? I've written hundreds of communication pieces and had no problem signing my name to them all. I say nothing different here than I said publicly.
If you want to change the rules of this board so we all just sign our names, I'm fine with that. It just seemed to me that many posters preferred anonymity.
Carl
05-21-2015, 06:37 PM
#4528
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I'm pretty sure going from the best sick leave in the business to the worst and going from industry leading profit sharing to less than United profit sharing wasn't in the survey. Also pretty sure leading the industry AGAIN in allowing more large rj's to keep the connection planes flying was not in the survey. This contract is going to be below industry standard in every area except pay rates.
This is a full on repeat of C2012. Why do we bother.
We have taken $15 billion in concessions and now we are going to gut our PWA during record profits. You can't fix stupid.
05-21-2015, 06:45 PM
#4529
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Originally Posted by EdGrimley
There's a difference. You are telling us you have a vantage point superior to others here. If you are going to make that claim then be willing to sign your name here as well. Otherwise drop the "I was there" nonsense.
05-21-2015, 06:46 PM
#4530
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Originally Posted by gzsg
All TIC
This is a full on repeat of C2012. Why do we bother.
We have taken $15 billion in concessions and now we are going to gut our PWA during record profits. You can't fix stupid.
This is a full on repeat of C2012. Why do we bother.
We have taken $15 billion in concessions and now we are going to gut our PWA during record profits. You can't fix stupid.
If the rumors are true, I'm asking myself that again. I'd rather trust the company's benevolence, than pay DALPA 1.95% of my pay to listen to their sales job every 3-4 years when I could have had the same or better pay and benefits without them. Let United and American lead the way. Tell Management if they keep our pay an average of UAL and AAL, I'll be happy to go non-union...assuming the rumors are true of course.
This is really starting to tick me off. Better step away from the keyboard.
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