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Carl Spackler 08-11-2014 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1703492)
Well 62% of your pilot group disagrees with you. Of course I guess they were simply duped.


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Carl...

Carl Spackler 08-11-2014 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1703511)
Thanks for the emotional response, it really helps your case.

Awesome! DALPA old guard talking points 101!


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1703521)
Yeah, if it doesn't agree with what you think then it MUST be emotional. :rolleyes: That trick is getting old, Shiz, and I don't think anyone who is objective is buying it.


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1703570)
I keep forgetting that you are the objective one and those that don't agree with you are the emotional ones, thanks for the reminder.

Hilarious! You can't make this stuff up folks.

Carl

tsquare 08-11-2014 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1703502)
That's ridiculous. I've never heard a single no voter say that. Not one. Mostly the reasons I've heard are: Didn't meet the contract survey, didn't believe the MEC admin's fear campaign, thought the company would come back with more if we sent it back, and it was too little before Section 6 even began.



Just like last time and not including our foreign JV competitors.

Carl

The correct way to say this is that it didn't meet the responses that I put on MY survey. It didn't meet what I put on mine, and I will agree to that. If you expect them to get everything that you put on the survey, you are a fool. Or you just like being dishonest and divisive.

johnso29 08-11-2014 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1703586)

Typical Carl. :rolleyes:

How's the clubhouse coming along? Is that your newest fan? Is he cheering you along as you try to get that darn gopher that constantly out smarts you?

johnso29 08-11-2014 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1703573)
So in the world of tsquare, you're disqualified if you don't trust your reps? I think one of his reps is Nestor. How could anyone trust someone that blatantly political?
Carl

What a ridiculous question. How can you trust Caplinger? Or any politician that you voted for? I suppose you've trusted every Council 20 rep? We all know they've never played politics ever. GMAB. :rolleyes:

Alan Shore 08-11-2014 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1703548)
That's what the NC stated. That's not what my reps stated. That's the problem.

I tried to read everything being put out by all councils during the ratification period. I saw nothing that said that the NC did not follow the priorities section of the survey. In fact, I saw no mention of survey priorities at all -- only that that TA did not meet the direction given by the MEC.

Carl Spackler 08-11-2014 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1703614)
The correct way to say this is that it didn't meet the responses that I put on MY survey. It didn't meet what I put on mine, and I will agree to that.

No, that's what tsquare says is correct. My reps simply said it did not even come close to the survey results. Be nice if they'd release the results so we could see for ourselves wouldn't it. :rolleyes:


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1703614)
If you expect them to get everything that you put on the survey, you are a fool.

You're the only one saying that tsquare. Yet another straw man.


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1703614)
Or you just like being dishonest and divisive.

Hmmm, I'm either dishonest, divisive or a fool. You've always been such a persuasive debater tsquare.

Carl

Carl Spackler 08-11-2014 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1703639)
I tried to read everything being put out by all councils during the ratification period. I saw nothing that said that the NC did not follow the priorities section of the survey. In fact, I saw no mention of survey priorities at all -- only that that TA did not meet the direction given by the MEC.

I did the same Alan and clearly remember it. Everyone can judge via their own recollections.

Carl

DAL 88 Driver 08-11-2014 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1703667)
No, that's what tsquare says is correct. My reps simply said it did not even come close to the survey results. Be nice if they'd release the results so we could see for ourselves wouldn't it. :rolleyes:



You're the only one saying that tsquare. Yet another straw man.



Hmmm, I'm either dishonest, divisive or a fool. You've always been such a persuasive debater tsquare.

Carl

Yep. Good ole Mr. T, he's such a persuasive debater... :D


skippy 08-11-2014 03:28 PM

we all know delta will get an offer and emphasize the time value of money


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