Lee Moak is in my opinion is throwing us under the bus with these comments. He is simply following in a long line of ALPA presidents who use the position to move to greener pastures.

I have never been a fan of ALPA national but this really is unbelievable coming from our leader.

The sad part is that it's totally believable coming from him. :mad:

Our dues money used to erode the most favorable negotiating environment many of us will ever see.

Simply stunning. I don't even know what to say.
Scambo, you must have mastered the mind meld with Mike and Moak... :eek:

This was the perfect opportunity for Moak to speak of our lost pensions, our stagnation, our billions in life changing concession and the fact the we need an 18% to 20% to return to our hourly rates that are over a decade old.

That would have prepared Wall Street and our fellow employees for our 30% plus increase date of signing.

Moak is not only not a friend to our profession, he is our enemy.

His reference to $2 or $2.05 is pure sell out.

Amazing it's taken this long for some to figure that out.

What he should have said is 30% or 35% date of signing matters to the Delta pilots.

I guess we should be happy he didn't say the Delta pilots need to accept longer freezes and a second reduction in profit sharing.

Maybe that is for his next interview. He still has a few months to go.

The WS mafia, as some call it, is a senior group that bids good trips that are then placed on the swap board for straight pick up (or just PDd) and then their schedule is clear. Supposedly down to 0. Then they go back in and pick up good WS trips with low block and full credit. They want trips with the most CR and min TAFB and put themselves on short short call to get them. I've had 88As explain it to me, 88Bs are kind of coy about it when asked. :D

They WS until it becomes apparent that they should've GS'd but then they WS anyways. There is a lot of this.

A good day or two day trip comes up in open time you'll see it go very senior and very quickly. Ive talked to Captains who do it, their joke is if they get injured their spouse has been instructed to go back and pick up as much as possible before telling the company.

So yes, WSs are senior, in seniority order if they meet credit requirements. And guys will do it day after day back to back because their schedules are wide open. I think they, in times of no GS, can still score 100+ hours with little block. Are they playing with fire? Sure, at the end of the month they'll pick up less than ideal WS trips if short.

You do see that a lot but if you want to try it you better be senior.

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I don't think this WS system was in the calculation when they said the GS system is better than the 1.5x system because the former spreads things out between more pilots.

GS are not "spreading the wealth". Most go out on the weekends, you need to be senior to get weekends off. I have all weekends off and I bet I could get GS #4 before a junior guy working weekends ever gets #1. In my experience, GSs still are a senior thing. Want proof? Just say you want GS to be on a rolling 3 month look back instead of just within the month, bet you won't find senior takers on that one.

Besides, what happens when GS type trips are just picked up on WS by senior pilots? And is it it really spreading the wealth if someone junior in the meantime has PBS lines to 90 hours for basically straight pay while someone senior gets 100 hours on 40 hours of block?

To me it's always worth looking at 1.5x pay twice if we're trying to figure out how to increase pay without consideration to section 3.

But if we were to add 1.5x, I want to see a cap and the GS system to stay as is.

Disappointing at the least. No wonder why "restoration" is never talked about. Why do I feel like our Union is management?

Why expose our hand? Why tell the World we dont need radical overhaul? Mr. Moak, you need to keep your mouth shut.:mad: You are a disgrace.

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I had to read that article three times to make sure that was what he said. Hard to think that the Hearndon mob has gotten so far off track. Moak sounds like he studied under Quisling and the Vichy French.

Frustrating :mad:

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